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I will try to flag all companies in my mind that are advertising on this event and then continue to avoid them if possible.

by ls15 4y ago

truthwhisperer 4y ago
ls15 4y ago
To the neighbour that I cannot reply to: > Please respect conservative views on life too. I think it is a good idea to marry first especially if you are a woman. I respect all kinds of viewpoints as long as they respect other viewpoints as well. A viewpoint that tries to jail people for their very personal decisions is inherently not respectable, because it is itself by definition lacking respect.
- azth 4y ago
  Who said that such decisions are personal, and won't affect society?
  - ls15 4y ago
    I say they are personal, because they affect the individual much more than anyone else. Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow, but that does not eliminate personal freedom. If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than your's and vice versa.
    - Gnob 4y ago
      > Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow Yeah, somehow Europe is now aging, weird, ha? > If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than yours and vice versa. So, Who defines or measures this? you? great, should start a "you religion", this is starting to take shape. Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opinion to outweigh the court's opinion because he's getting much more money hence his trade is affecting him much more than the little amounts he sells individually to people. Totally makes sense.
      - ls15 4y ago
        > Yeah, somehow Europe is now aging, weird, ha? Populations have a lifecycle too. Forcing people to reproduce does not seem like a worthwile solution to me. > So, Who defines or measures this? It is self-organizing, for humans ideally by debate, since they can. Since you mention animals above: they are much more straight-forward about their laws than humans. We overcomplicate things, but if I can make a call, it would be to simplify laws to the most basic level and try to keep them clear of religion and cultural norms. > Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opinion to outweigh the court's opinion because he's getting much more money hence his trade is affecting him much more than the little amounts he sells individually to people. I think a better example would be a corporation that gives people cancer for profit, because in the case of the drug dealer it is not always clear if any harm was actually caused. Just judging it by CancerCorp's profit would be obviously ignorant and binary, because it would not take the harm that was directly caused into consideration. At the end, some kind of balance needs to be established. This is what nature does, right?
- Gnob 4y ago
  okay, this got me mad. why do you think killing your child and eating him is a bad idea. animals do that, and we're animals, so give me a reason as why to this being a bad idea and you will gladly get me to agree with your very self-contradictory opinion. You don't have values, nor a measurement to define what's good and what's not, not to mention "respect" ideas or people. You only have one thing to appreciate as an atheist, which is materialism and anything that serves your goals by any means necessary. Am I wrong?
  - ls15 4y ago
    Being dead is detrimental to enjoying materialism, as well as not being free. Being detrimental to other people's materialism is detrimental to being free and alive.

I will try to flag all companies in my mind that are advertising on this event and then continue to avoid them if possible.

by ls15 4y ago

I will try to flag all companies in my mind that are advertising on this event and then continue to avoid them if possible.

truthwhisperer 4y ago

ls15 4y ago

To the neighbour that I cannot reply to: > Please respect conservative views on life too. I think it is a good idea to marry first especially if you are a woman. I respect all kinds of viewpoints as long as they respect other viewpoints as well. A viewpoint that tries to jail people for their very personal decisions is inherently not respectable, because it is itself by definition lacking respect.

azth 4y ago
Who said that such decisions are personal, and won't affect society?
- ls15 4y ago
  I say they are personal, because they affect the individual much more than anyone else. Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow, but that does not eliminate personal freedom. If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than your's and vice versa.
  - Gnob 4y ago
    > Of course everything we do is affecting society somehow Yeah, somehow Europe is now aging, weird, ha? > If it affects me more than it affects you, my opinion weighs more than yours and vice versa. So, Who defines or measures this? you? great, should start a "you religion", this is starting to take shape. Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opinion to outweigh the court's opinion because he's getting much more money hence his trade is affecting him much more than the little amounts he sells individually to people. Totally makes sense.
    - ls15 4y ago
      > Yeah, somehow Europe is now aging, weird, ha? Populations have a lifecycle too. Forcing people to reproduce does not seem like a worthwile solution to me. > So, Who defines or measures this? It is self-organizing, for humans ideally by debate, since they can. Since you mention animals above: they are much more straight-forward about their laws than humans. We overcomplicate things, but if I can make a call, it would be to simplify laws to the most basic level and try to keep them clear of religion and cultural norms. > Now If a drug dealer says his actions do affect him far more than his buyers, it should make sense for his opinion to outweigh the court's opinion because he's getting much more money hence his trade is affecting him much more than the little amounts he sells individually to people. I think a better example would be a corporation that gives people cancer for profit, because in the case of the drug dealer it is not always clear if any harm was actually caused. Just judging it by CancerCorp's profit would be obviously ignorant and binary, because it would not take the harm that was directly caused into consideration. At the end, some kind of balance needs to be established. This is what nature does, right?
Gnob 4y ago
okay, this got me mad. why do you think killing your child and eating him is a bad idea. animals do that, and we're animals, so give me a reason as why to this being a bad idea and you will gladly get me to agree with your very self-contradictory opinion. You don't have values, nor a measurement to define what's good and what's not, not to mention "respect" ideas or people. You only have one thing to appreciate as an atheist, which is materialism and anything that serves your goals by any means necessary. Am I wrong?
- ls15 4y ago
  Being dead is detrimental to enjoying materialism, as well as not being free. Being detrimental to other people's materialism is detrimental to being free and alive.