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>> "GitHub Enterprise is priced at $5,000 per 20 users" How does this fare against other enterprise hosted scm/version control products?

by ayanb 15y ago

xbryanx 15y ago
Not exactly analogous, but FishEye from Atlassian is less money/user and LOTS less money for teams less than 10. http://www.atlassian.com/software/fisheye/pricing http://www.atlassian.com/software/fisheye/pricing Obviously, the feature set is pretty different, but I think it still falls into the Enterprise SCM category.
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- Argorak 15y ago
  Fisheye is $800 for 10 users, $1200 for 20, plus the required JIRA install, which is $1200. Add a Wiki component (Confluence) and you can add another $800. The proper code reviewing tool (Crucible) is $800/$1200. Thats (roughly) the feature set of Github, without the source hosting/ssh-key-management stuff. So summed up: 10 Users: $3600 20 Users: $4400 So, they are definitely cheaper, but I'd say that $5000 for 20 users is a competitive price for such a huge infrastructure.
  - azov 15y ago
    Atlassian also has bitbucket, which is a direct competitor to github and priced at $10/month for 10 developers or $25/month for 25 developers. So, it's only $240 a year for 20 developers (https://bitbucket.org/plans https://bitbucket.org/plans). It may not have all the features of github, but they provide basic git hosting, wiki, and issue tracking. Do the extra features of github justify 20x higher price? They also have a free plan for up to 5 developers.
    - X-Istence 15y ago
      Is Bitbucket something I can install on my own hardware behind my corporate firewall?
  - biot 15y ago
    The Starter Program covers the first 10 users for all but one of their products for $10 (each product, downloadable version) with proceeds going to Room to Read: http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview So if your team is 10 users or less, you get all of Atlassian's products for $100.
  - ConstantineXVI 15y ago
    FishEye actually has built-in git management as of the last release, but everything else stands. Plus, FishEye's git handling has always been a bit odd, particularly how it handles branches.
  - Jd 15y ago
    A bit confused why you think that is the same feature set of Github. The core product here is JIRA and everything else is accessories. What does Github give you in the way of project/ticket management? Also what is the Crucible equivalent?
    - Argorak 15y ago
      I wrote that this is _roughly_ the same feature set. The equivalent for Code review in Github is the fork/pull request/compare mechanic, which can be used in between repositories as well. Ticket management: Github Tickets. It also has basic support for Milestone planning etc.
  - mikey_p 15y ago
    I would say that one major distinction is that Github is a tool designed to manage repos and make sharing code easier, with a ticket tracker bolted on. The whole Altassian suite is centered on JIRA, so it's more of a ticket tracker with code viewing and review tools bolted on. It's a subtle but not insignificant difference and depending on your needs, either one could be a good fit.
jcdavis 15y ago
At, $250/user/year its cheaper than any published perforce pricing (from http://www.perforce.com/purchase# http://www.perforce.com/purchase#) Of course perforce is about as expensive as it gets for enterprise vcs
- varikin 15y ago
  Preforce is a steal compared to Clearcase (https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpress/Express?P0=E1&part_number=D5315LL,D0BH1LL,D0BH2LL&catalogLocale=en_US&Locale=en_US&country=USA&PT=html https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpr...) which is from 2500 to 5000 a user.
  - pnathan 15y ago
    Yeah, ClearCase is very spendy.
    - mey 15y ago
      Funny thing is we ditched ClearCase for SVN several years ago because of how horrible a product it was. I've generally enjoyed Perforce, but for our SCM needs at the time SVN more then suited our build and deployment strategies.
ajross 15y ago
$250/seat/year is actually fairly cheap for enterprise development products. The administration cost in IT staff is likely to be much higher. It sounds good, though I guess my fear would be that git's mindshare in the kind of locked-down IT environments this is targetted at is still fairly low. Clearcase still rules in that world, and a SCM system is among the least flexible infrastructure items.
taylorbuley 15y ago
We're using Gitorious at Forbes, which has been great for us. $5k is more expensive than free, but I think Github has the development community mindshare (more free tools) and, in some cases, a technology advantage, such as managing pull requests.

>> "GitHub Enterprise is priced at $5,000 per 20 users" How does this fare against other enterprise hosted scm/version control products?

by ayanb 15y ago

>> "GitHub Enterprise is priced at $5,000 per 20 users" How does this fare against other enterprise hosted scm/version control products?

xbryanx 15y ago

Not exactly analogous, but FishEye from Atlassian is less money/user and LOTS less money for teams less than 10. http://www.atlassian.com/software/fisheye/pricing http://www.atlassian.com/software/fisheye/pricing Obviously, the feature set is pretty different, but I think it still falls into the Enterprise SCM category.

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Argorak 15y ago
Fisheye is $800 for 10 users, $1200 for 20, plus the required JIRA install, which is $1200. Add a Wiki component (Confluence) and you can add another $800. The proper code reviewing tool (Crucible) is $800/$1200. Thats (roughly) the feature set of Github, without the source hosting/ssh-key-management stuff. So summed up: 10 Users: $3600 20 Users: $4400 So, they are definitely cheaper, but I'd say that $5000 for 20 users is a competitive price for such a huge infrastructure.
- azov 15y ago
  Atlassian also has bitbucket, which is a direct competitor to github and priced at $10/month for 10 developers or $25/month for 25 developers. So, it's only $240 a year for 20 developers (https://bitbucket.org/plans https://bitbucket.org/plans). It may not have all the features of github, but they provide basic git hosting, wiki, and issue tracking. Do the extra features of github justify 20x higher price? They also have a free plan for up to 5 developers.
  - X-Istence 15y ago
    Is Bitbucket something I can install on my own hardware behind my corporate firewall?
- biot 15y ago
  The Starter Program covers the first 10 users for all but one of their products for $10 (each product, downloadable version) with proceeds going to Room to Read: http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview So if your team is 10 users or less, you get all of Atlassian's products for $100.
- ConstantineXVI 15y ago
  FishEye actually has built-in git management as of the last release, but everything else stands. Plus, FishEye's git handling has always been a bit odd, particularly how it handles branches.
- Jd 15y ago
  A bit confused why you think that is the same feature set of Github. The core product here is JIRA and everything else is accessories. What does Github give you in the way of project/ticket management? Also what is the Crucible equivalent?
  - Argorak 15y ago
    I wrote that this is _roughly_ the same feature set. The equivalent for Code review in Github is the fork/pull request/compare mechanic, which can be used in between repositories as well. Ticket management: Github Tickets. It also has basic support for Milestone planning etc.
- mikey_p 15y ago
  I would say that one major distinction is that Github is a tool designed to manage repos and make sharing code easier, with a ticket tracker bolted on. The whole Altassian suite is centered on JIRA, so it's more of a ticket tracker with code viewing and review tools bolted on. It's a subtle but not insignificant difference and depending on your needs, either one could be a good fit.

jcdavis 15y ago

At, $250/user/year its cheaper than any published perforce pricing (from http://www.perforce.com/purchase# http://www.perforce.com/purchase#) Of course perforce is about as expensive as it gets for enterprise vcs

varikin 15y ago
Preforce is a steal compared to Clearcase (https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpress/Express?P0=E1&part_number=D5315LL,D0BH1LL,D0BH2LL&catalogLocale=en_US&Locale=en_US&country=USA&PT=html https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpr...) which is from 2500 to 5000 a user.
- pnathan 15y ago
  Yeah, ClearCase is very spendy.
  - mey 15y ago
    Funny thing is we ditched ClearCase for SVN several years ago because of how horrible a product it was. I've generally enjoyed Perforce, but for our SCM needs at the time SVN more then suited our build and deployment strategies.

ajross 15y ago

$250/seat/year is actually fairly cheap for enterprise development products. The administration cost in IT staff is likely to be much higher. It sounds good, though I guess my fear would be that git's mindshare in the kind of locked-down IT environments this is targetted at is still fairly low. Clearcase still rules in that world, and a SCM system is among the least flexible infrastructure items.

taylorbuley 15y ago

We're using Gitorious at Forbes, which has been great for us. $5k is more expensive than free, but I think Github has the development community mindshare (more free tools) and, in some cases, a technology advantage, such as managing pull requests.