For me the difference is in the process. Cider usually ends up being (slightly) carbonated and you let it interact with fresh oxygen. With wine making, you sea

For me the difference is in the process. Cider usually ends up being (slightly) carbonated and you let it interact with fresh oxygen. With wine making, you seal the bottle, add yeast and sugar and then add one of those circular tubes with water in it that lets co2 escape but does not let outside air in.