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Having just purchased copilot and a user of Tabnine in the past (using Phpstorm) here is my own personal opinion. The suggestions offered by Tabnine weren't any
by Crazyontap 4y ago
Having just purchased copilot and a user of Tabnine in the past (using Phpstorm) here is my own personal opinion. The suggestions offered by Tabnine weren't anywhere good as copilot - not even by a long shot (at least for PHP and Javascript).
But almost an year has passed since I used this so I don't know if they have had a major update and the results are improved, but previously 1 out of 10 tabnine suggestions were barely useful, compared to 9 out of 10 with copilot.
Since it's a paid offering now I really hope they've upped their game.
- fartcannon 4y ago
- davidatbu 4y agoI certainly would miss them since they've been contributing massively to the python static typing story ...
- alar44 4y agoNo, I don't want to cobble together an office suite, email server, user auth, identity management, file sharing, meeting scheduling, and messaging system from scratch and then train users how to use this Frankenstein system and also support it. Because you know vendors never blame each other.
- fartcannon 4y agoListen to how you're talking about it. That's why the need to go. They're poison. They poison everything.
- alar44 4y agoI'm talking about it like someone who has used alternatives and came to like it after many years. It allows me to manage 250 users comfortably with 1 admin in a decently high turnover environment and spend my time actually getting work done rather than fiddling with APIs and random connectors. I don't have to even think about it and it's worth every penny.
- fartcannon 4y agoGlad it works for you. Fossil fuels work great, too.
- alar44 4y agoWhat exactly is your problem with Microsoft? Are you just an edgy "I use Linux guy?" I use Linux too, it's my daily driver. But when you're managing office workers and sales people that have to interface with regular people inside and outside the org, your OSS utopia falls apart. I'm making some assumptions here, but clearly, you don't work in a space where the average person (non tech) needs to collaborate. You drive a car. I drive a school bus.
- fartcannon 4y agoThis is going to really make me sound like a real ass, but I dont own a car! I ride a bike everywhere. Haha. West coast is turning me into a hippy. And yeah, Im afraid I dont buy your perspective that only Microsoft can do everything. Seems to me like that can't do anything without being shitty in some way - from their very inception (stealing and suing). I personally think the world would be better without mega corporations that act like bad citizens like Microsoft, Google, Facebook and especially Apple. Since I can't have that, I mostly wish they werent allowed to advertise everywhere all the time.
- alar44 4y agoI never said only Microsoft can do everything. The provide the easiest solution that just automatically ties everything together. My company builds actual things, we don't want to spend time fiddling with custom software integrations.
- skohan 4y agoYou can't because they will just buy whatever you use to get back into your life.
- datalopers 4y agoNah I like to get shit accomplished.
- sh4rks 4y agoWe owe a lot to the smart people working there
- fartcannon 4y ago
- kjeetgill 4y agoFeel free to elaborate -- this is hacker news not script kiddie news. Excess cynicism aside, while I think there's always plenty to be critical of I think between Leslie Lamport, Excel, and Windows XP I'd say it's not all bad.
- fartcannon 4y agoIt's not cynical to dream of a world where giant brutal monopolies don't spew PR at every turn. Its optimistic. Like walking down a main street after they pass a no advertising law. Magical.
- dymk 4y agoWhat do we owe them? They already got paid. By Microsoft.
- skohan 4y agoYeah and they're not doing it for us they're doing it for them. MS is a corporation not some kind of NGO
- memorable 4y agoI 100% agree with this.
- alisiddiq 4y agoWhereas I only agree with it 78.65%
- YotamShinan 4y agoHi, Tabnine's DevRel here. The past 12 months have been quite a journey, and a lot has changed. To make a long story short: We've trained 12 standalone models that are now used to serve highly accurate code completions based on current project & file context. I encourage you to give it another go. Tabnine CEO Dror Weiss, wrote this detailed thread explaining some of the key differences (both in technology and user-approach) between Tabnine and Copilot: https://twitter.com/drorwe/status/1539293063117516801 https://twitter.com/drorwe/status/1539293063117516801