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"Ethics should rather be focused on what we all want and equitable conflict resolution." Whence "should"? Why "equitable"? Why care about what everyone wants?

• guerrilla 4y ago
  > Why care about what everyone wants? Because anyone could be in anyone else's situation. You want norms that don't fuck you when you draw the short end of the stick. > You trying to dominate somebody with these normative assertions? I'm literally and transparently trying to convince you to do what I want.
  • TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    > I'm literally and transparently trying to convince you to do what I want. Didn’t work. Partially because I don’t understand it.
  • JackFr 4y ago
    > You want norms that don't fuck you when you draw the short end of the stick. Not necessarily. You’re claiming your worldview as universal. It’s easy to imagine an ethics where strength and power are virtues and weakness is a moral failing, and the strong owe nothing to the weak.
    • guerrilla 4y ago
      > Not necessarily. You’re claiming your worldview as universal. So you're fine with a system where anyone is allowed to kidnap and torture you? That's in your interest? No, I didn't think so and you agree with me.
      • TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
        If I’m stronger and have more guns, why wouldn’t I want that system? Then I could kidnap, steal, etc. become wealthy through theft and spread my genes through rape. Isn’t this what we had a few tens of thousands of years ago?