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I wish I could buy things that are expected to last a lifetime. The only things I've purchased in recent months that fall into that category are my cast iron p
by xedrac 4y ago
I wish I could buy things that are expected to last a lifetime. The only things I've purchased in recent months that fall into that category are my cast iron pan and some hardcover books.
- bergenty 4y agoThere are a lot of things but they are always very very expensive. It’s almost not worth it when functionally many times they perform about as well as something a tenth of its price.
- TylerE 4y agoAnd if we’re talking electronics, 100x worse than what will be on the Market in 10 years.
- makapuf 4y ago10 years ago you could buy a core i5 2500 for ~$200. Quad core, 3.7GHz max. Seem to be half the perf of a current i5 on 4threads benchmarks. Of course phones have progressed faster but will they for the next 10 years? Probably not in terms of utility.
- TylerE 4y agoThat seems rather reductionist. It’s not about one single synthetic benchmark. A 10 year old system is going to be much worse - slower RAM, worse GPU, much slower disks (and almost certainly disks, not SSD)
- dotancohen 4y agoJust so you know, the glue used in most hard- and soft- cover books since the 1970's is more worm-resistant but less time-resistant than earlier organic formulations. You'll find books bound in the 18th century that can still have the pages turned today, but thirty- or forty- year old books typically fall apart, especially in dry conditions. I do not know if there is an economical way to repair them, I'd never thought about it until now.
- a_imho 4y agoWhat kind of books are we talking here? Could be survivorship bias, but my experience (in Europe) is nothing like this, plenty of old books in every household and second hand shops are buying them en masse as well.
- dotancohen 4y agoThat is a terrific question, and I don't know. I actually happen to work in a printing house, but what I stated is something that was explained to me years ago. I'm in the software development department, but I'll ask around in the printing department and see if I can get any clarification. I do wonder if that information is local to our country, or to specific books, it was explained to me in the context of a hardcopy of Journey to the Center of the Earth falling apart. The book was likely printed locally as it is in our local language, not French.
- nonrandomstring 4y agoRebinding is a thing. I saw a machine in a library once. It kind of sands off the old hardened glue and then dips the spine in some sort of hot-glue.
- kakwa_ 4y agoTo extend further, very few items will run flawlessly for decades or more without some kind of maintenance. Durable doesn't necessarily mean the product will last eternally as built. Books usually need to be re-bound and re-covered, pieces of furniture need to be repainted/revarnished, Electronic appliances may need component replacement (capacitors, belts, etc), etc Yes,this represent some efforts and still have some ecological impact, but being able to maintain an item that, at its core, is still original is a far cry from producing a brand new one. But to do so, the product needs to be designed as maintainable and reparable, preferably even beyond the manufacturer support period (by using generic and easily obtainable components for example).
- ekianjo 4y agoBooks dont last that long anymore... Maybe a lifetime if you never use them and keep them sealed in a temperature and humidity controlled environment
- xedrac 4y agoWell, scratch that one off the list too then. But that's my point. Very few things are made to last anymore, and that makes me sad.