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I find this statement hard to believe: "76% of those people that in 2021 purchased a new device and indicated to have noticed the index." It just doesn't jive w
by tims33 4y ago
I find this statement hard to believe: "76% of those people that in 2021 purchased a new device and indicated to have noticed the index." It just doesn't jive with the real world understanding most people have of their technology devices.
I think this law is a net positive, but I can't tell from this document if it really made a measurable impact in year 1.
- thomasahle 4y agoI think you are misreading the sentence. It doesn't say how many people noticed the index. It says how many of the people _who noticed the index_ found it helpful. (See nonrandomstring's comment.)
- tims33 4y agoI see what they are saying. I'm still not sure it is a useful data point other than to say the index isn't detrimental. My conclusion from the report is that it is still too early to determine the impact of the program.
- bombcar 4y agoI could believe it if French law required it as a sticker or otherwise on the product/ads, like US food details are on each product.
- bchanudet 4y agoI'm not sure if it's actually required by law, but usual retailers have been communicating a lot on this in the last year. Most of them display a sticker in their stores, but the score is also prominently shown on their websites[0][1]. I'm really not surprised that a lot of people willing to buy something noticed the repairability score, because it's near impossible to miss it. [0]: Some examples on two of the biggest appliance/electronics retailers: https://www.boulanger.com/ref/1157777 https://www.boulanger.com/ref/1157777, https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/gros_electromenager/lavage_sechage/lave-linge_hublot/samsung_ww70ta046ax.html https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/gros_electromenager/lavage_s... [1]: One last example on the Orange (mobile services provider) shop: https://boutique.orange.fr/mobile/details/oneplus-9-pro-5g-noir https://boutique.orange.fr/mobile/details/oneplus-9-pro-5g-n...
- nrp 4y agoYep, it is required by law to have the repairability index score posted prominently near the price tag of the product, whether online or in physical retail. It’s a super effective approach (as noted in the linked study).
- chrisseaton 4y ago> It just doesn't jive with the real world understanding most people have of their technology devices. Obviously the French are quite a lot poorer than the US, if that's where you're coming from, so values for things like repairability are going to be different.
- tims33 4y agoNo, I definitely wasn't saying that. My point is that people are generally pretty oblivious of the vast majority of facts and features of their electronics devices.
- InCityDreams 4y agoA lot less oblivious, now. In France.
- boudin 4y agoThat's just not true
- chrisseaton 4y agoThat the French are poorer? People in the US are about 50% richer when you account for purchasing power and things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income
- pseudojim 4y agoWe're already way off topic, but it's 40%. And we're talking about two countries with significantly different tax rates and social contributions.
- chrisseaton 4y ago> but it's 40% Eh? 42800 / 28571 = 1.498 > significantly different tax rates and social contributions Eh? "includes all forms of income as well as taxes and transfers in kind from governments for benefits such as healthcare and education"