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This looks like a dashboard version of my own Python scripts that I use to evaluate training data. reads more into the blurb Use our APIs to improve your

by krapht 4y ago

This looks like a dashboard version of my own Python scripts that I use to evaluate training data. ** reads more into the blurb** Use our APIs to improve your models! Blech, not interested anymore. I can't hand out access to a 3rd party server for our data for legal reasons. Your startup can't afford to jump through the hoops to sell to my employer either, not that I would even recommend the app right now without trialing it myself. I need something I can afford to purchase individually through my manager's discretionary budget (or myself) and run on our own servers. Most ML startups are SAAS and fail this test for me.

carom 4y ago
(Not OP) Out of curiosity, how much is your manager's discretionary budget? I feel like any own-infrastructure per-seat license is going to be way beyond that. Maybe as a marketplace app. [1] 1. https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/ https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/
- krapht 4y ago
  I agree. I'm not sure how it at other companies. Both at my current company and previous one, line managers had a misc budget of $2000 before needing oversight, with bigger numbers as you went up the leadership chain, but I never interacted with those types frequently enough to ask. This was for one time purchases only. Recurring charges i.e. SaaS offerings would need to go up to the division head for approval, which means effectively no unless it was essential stuff like Jira/Bitbucket, Office, etc.
parnoux 4y ago
I don't know how tight your legal restrictions are but we work from metadata only. We don't need your text / img / audio. We just need their embeddings and a few other stuff. And we are working on a self hosted version as well. Out of curiosity, what would you expect in terms of pricing ?
- krapht 4y ago
  I don't know how much I would pay because I have not researched your product, sorry for being unhelpful. Just to throw a useless number out, if there was a standalone version licensed for individual use I would impulse pay $100 to run it on my workstation and give it a try. Because while I do have scripts to automate a lot of my data analysis it's always nice to have a turnkey solution that automates it even more, and there is the promise that next year I could buy a new version that stays up to date with the integrations or adds more features. I can't imagine that is enough money to fund your development, but... there is no chance anyone in our org will jump through the hoops to adopt and purchase this as part of your enterprise sales when we already have tooling that does what you do, just not as polished. This is code we own and can extend ourselves, which I'm guessing is not something we can do with a SaaS offering. I am afraid any information at all about data or models can't go to a 3rd party server. Practically speaking stuff has to be able to run on firewalled servers that are only accessible on the company network. Exceptions would have to go through the legal department and at least 6 months of meetings where you would be repeatedly told no, unless it is vital to the product, which a dashboard isn't, even if it could theoretically be allowed.
  - parnoux 4y ago
    Thanks for sharing

This looks like a dashboard version of my own Python scripts that I use to evaluate training data. ** reads more into the blurb** Use our APIs to improve your

by krapht 4y ago

carom 4y ago

(Not OP) Out of curiosity, how much is your manager's discretionary budget? I feel like any own-infrastructure per-seat license is going to be way beyond that. Maybe as a marketplace app. [1] 1. https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/ https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/

krapht 4y ago
I agree. I'm not sure how it at other companies. Both at my current company and previous one, line managers had a misc budget of $2000 before needing oversight, with bigger numbers as you went up the leadership chain, but I never interacted with those types frequently enough to ask. This was for one time purchases only. Recurring charges i.e. SaaS offerings would need to go up to the division head for approval, which means effectively no unless it was essential stuff like Jira/Bitbucket, Office, etc.

parnoux 4y ago

I don't know how tight your legal restrictions are but we work from metadata only. We don't need your text / img / audio. We just need their embeddings and a few other stuff. And we are working on a self hosted version as well. Out of curiosity, what would you expect in terms of pricing ?

krapht 4y ago
I don't know how much I would pay because I have not researched your product, sorry for being unhelpful. Just to throw a useless number out, if there was a standalone version licensed for individual use I would impulse pay $100 to run it on my workstation and give it a try. Because while I do have scripts to automate a lot of my data analysis it's always nice to have a turnkey solution that automates it even more, and there is the promise that next year I could buy a new version that stays up to date with the integrations or adds more features. I can't imagine that is enough money to fund your development, but... there is no chance anyone in our org will jump through the hoops to adopt and purchase this as part of your enterprise sales when we already have tooling that does what you do, just not as polished. This is code we own and can extend ourselves, which I'm guessing is not something we can do with a SaaS offering. I am afraid any information at all about data or models can't go to a 3rd party server. Practically speaking stuff has to be able to run on firewalled servers that are only accessible on the company network. Exceptions would have to go through the legal department and at least 6 months of meetings where you would be repeatedly told no, unless it is vital to the product, which a dashboard isn't, even if it could theoretically be allowed.
- parnoux 4y ago
  Thanks for sharing