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> There are basically no pathogens whose infectious innoculum is so close to dose of the average toilet plume that a factor of 2 makes any difference at all. Mo

> There are basically no pathogens whose infectious innoculum is so close to dose of the average toilet plume that a factor of 2 makes any difference at all. Moreover, those are your germs. you are colonized with them already. That's only true if you're living alone. If someone else is living with you, then it's always good to try and avoid sharing germs, especially when they're sick.

rimunroe 4y ago
> If someone else is living with you, then it's always good to try and avoid sharing germs I feel like this is a ridiculous enough question that I don't expect a source-though if you do have one or know how this sort of thing would be studied I'd love to hear it--but is that always true? I certainly try to reduce my exposure when someone's noticeably sick, but I wouldn't be surprised if some degree of exposure turned out to be beneficial. I also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be harmful. I would be least surprised to find out that doing this simply doesn't make a measurable difference in most home environments.
- seszett 4y ago
  When your loved one is emptying from both sides every other hour, you generally just want to avoid it for yourself.
  - rimunroe 4y ago
    Of course, but you said that it's always a good idea to avoid sharing germs. I'm specifically asking about the common scenario where no one is noticeably sick
    - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
      Using UV light to see the plume of a flush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tg7i66GGMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tg7i66GGMI
      - rimunroe 4y ago
        Sorry, how is this relevant to the question being asked?
ouid 4y ago
We know about the pathogens which are likely to make you sick from fecal-oral transmission. We have studied them pretty well because they are common. The most likely candidate for a pathogen that could be spread through toilet plumes is called norovirus, and it is extremely studied. We have so far not found any clinical evidence of infection through toilet plume from norovirus. This includes in cases where water jet toilets produce many times more aerosolization in public bathrooms where lids are not even an option.

rimunroe 4y ago

> If someone else is living with you, then it's always good to try and avoid sharing germs I feel like this is a ridiculous enough question that I don't expect a source-though if you do have one or know how this sort of thing would be studied I'd love to hear it--but is that always true? I certainly try to reduce my exposure when someone's noticeably sick, but I wouldn't be surprised if some degree of exposure turned out to be beneficial. I also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be harmful. I would be least surprised to find out that doing this simply doesn't make a measurable difference in most home environments.

seszett 4y ago
When your loved one is emptying from both sides every other hour, you generally just want to avoid it for yourself.
- rimunroe 4y ago
  Of course, but you said that it's always a good idea to avoid sharing germs. I'm specifically asking about the common scenario where no one is noticeably sick
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    Using UV light to see the plume of a flush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tg7i66GGMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tg7i66GGMI
    - rimunroe 4y ago
      Sorry, how is this relevant to the question being asked?

ouid 4y ago

We know about the pathogens which are likely to make you sick from fecal-oral transmission. We have studied them pretty well because they are common. The most likely candidate for a pathogen that could be spread through toilet plumes is called norovirus, and it is extremely studied. We have so far not found any clinical evidence of infection through toilet plume from norovirus. This includes in cases where water jet toilets produce many times more aerosolization in public bathrooms where lids are not even an option.