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I would love to see the WTF look on Jobs' face when he first saw this device. What was Microsoft thinking? The iPad works because it gives you a simpler way to

I would love to see the WTF look on Jobs' face when he first saw this device. What was Microsoft thinking? The iPad works because it gives you a simpler way to do the simplest things you would otherwise do at your desk. It fits into your life quickly and effortlessly and it's priced to be a discretionary purchase. This is all essential for a new product category. Microsoft thought that architects were going to pay probably over $1000 for this bizarre device to do work on it?? Highly trained people doing specialized work don't usually alter their workflow unless there is an obvious need and a proven solution. If they focussed the entire product on a single vertical then maybe they could sell a few. But an all-purpose creativity device with no 3rd party apps? That pie is in orbit. EDIT: don't agree then?

gnaffle 15y ago
I think you're spot on. Microsoft seems almost obsessed on demoing and talking about these lofty products, the Surface is another example. Real artists ship, as someone said.. What's interesting is that while Apple had the perfect pitch for the iPad (simple web browsing device), the form factor and touch screen made it possible to use it for almost anything. Now you see pilots, doctors and musicians use the iPad in their work. It's obvious that it's not limited to content consumption. Here's an idea: Make an app (or a framework) allowing two iPads to be connected over WiFi or with a special "dual iPad" cover that would make the app span the screens of both iPads. With this, you could recreate the Courier experience on a shipping device, priced at $800. If the iPad can do screen mirroring to an Apple TV, why not to another iPad? (Because Apple says so, of course. :) Stuff like this is starting to happen in a small way with WiST compatible music apps.
rbanffy 15y ago
What I found most ludicrous? Ballmer relying on Gates' taste to select one device or another. It's hard to fathom the absurdity of this. He did the right thing - this whole idea of making something for creative people, "for architects", is beyond ridiculous. But then how can a project go so bad (I am remembering the Kin) and nobody notices until there are 130 people working on it for a year? Here, when we have a stupid idea, it's usually killed at the 5-people-involved stage. Could it be Microsoft lacks adult supervision?
- kenjackson 15y ago
  What I found most ludicrous? Ballmer relying on Gates' taste to select one device or another. I know right? Why ask arguably the most successful businessman in history for his opinion? Stupid Ballmer. But then how can a project go so bad (I am remembering the Kin) and nobody notices until there are 130 people working on it for a year? Here, when we have a stupid idea, it's usually killed at the 5-people-involved stage. That happens quite easily. The story I've heard about the Kin (with no verifiable sources) is that they built the phone they planned on designing for the most part. And had the phone shipped as a feature phone it may have been a blockbuster. But Verizon changed their tune due to it being so late and made it a smartphone. But it was a great idea, up until it was a really bad idea -- with contractual obligations for marketing and delivery. Oddly, the neutered Kin is one of Verizon's top selling feature phones now.
  - rbanffy 15y ago
    > Why ask arguably the most successful businessman in history for his opinion? In this specific case, I side with the stated opinion of one of the most admired businessmen of all time, Steve Jobs. Bill Gates just has no taste. After reading this description of the Courier, I don't know why even bothering Gates with this. edit: another explanation could be blame shifting. Ballmer knows his tenure has not been exactly brilliant and canceling a project that could be (it would be portrayed as that, if convenient) the iPad killer Microsoft's board dreams about would end up being ammunition against Ballmer in any future conflict. By delegating this decision to Gates, Ballmer is safe. Killing the Courier was the right thing, but Ballmer needed bigger balls than his own to kill it.
    - sandee 15y ago
      There is something unique about tablets like iPad, which is tough to understand. When Steve Jobs released it, he emphasized that this was a major event. However at the time, it looked like a overblown iPhone. Personally for me, there are days when i never miss using my iPad, but without PC i cannot do even for few hours. That said, i still feel that there is something i don't understand of this device. Something which old-guards like steve and gates, who have seen it happening once, feel about it and how its going to bring in some big changes in future. Hat's off to Ballmer to call in the right person for task. Hallmark of a good leadership is often about understanding the gravity of situation, know your limitations and find the best person for task. No-wonder companies with leaders like that lead the industry for decades.

gnaffle 15y ago

I think you're spot on. Microsoft seems almost obsessed on demoing and talking about these lofty products, the Surface is another example. Real artists ship, as someone said.. What's interesting is that while Apple had the perfect pitch for the iPad (simple web browsing device), the form factor and touch screen made it possible to use it for almost anything. Now you see pilots, doctors and musicians use the iPad in their work. It's obvious that it's not limited to content consumption. Here's an idea: Make an app (or a framework) allowing two iPads to be connected over WiFi or with a special "dual iPad" cover that would make the app span the screens of both iPads. With this, you could recreate the Courier experience on a shipping device, priced at $800. If the iPad can do screen mirroring to an Apple TV, why not to another iPad? (Because Apple says so, of course. :) Stuff like this is starting to happen in a small way with WiST compatible music apps.

rbanffy 15y ago

What I found most ludicrous? Ballmer relying on Gates' taste to select one device or another. It's hard to fathom the absurdity of this. He did the right thing - this whole idea of making something for creative people, "for architects", is beyond ridiculous. But then how can a project go so bad (I am remembering the Kin) and nobody notices until there are 130 people working on it for a year? Here, when we have a stupid idea, it's usually killed at the 5-people-involved stage. Could it be Microsoft lacks adult supervision?

kenjackson 15y ago
What I found most ludicrous? Ballmer relying on Gates' taste to select one device or another. I know right? Why ask arguably the most successful businessman in history for his opinion? Stupid Ballmer. But then how can a project go so bad (I am remembering the Kin) and nobody notices until there are 130 people working on it for a year? Here, when we have a stupid idea, it's usually killed at the 5-people-involved stage. That happens quite easily. The story I've heard about the Kin (with no verifiable sources) is that they built the phone they planned on designing for the most part. And had the phone shipped as a feature phone it may have been a blockbuster. But Verizon changed their tune due to it being so late and made it a smartphone. But it was a great idea, up until it was a really bad idea -- with contractual obligations for marketing and delivery. Oddly, the neutered Kin is one of Verizon's top selling feature phones now.
- rbanffy 15y ago
  > Why ask arguably the most successful businessman in history for his opinion? In this specific case, I side with the stated opinion of one of the most admired businessmen of all time, Steve Jobs. Bill Gates just has no taste. After reading this description of the Courier, I don't know why even bothering Gates with this. edit: another explanation could be blame shifting. Ballmer knows his tenure has not been exactly brilliant and canceling a project that could be (it would be portrayed as that, if convenient) the iPad killer Microsoft's board dreams about would end up being ammunition against Ballmer in any future conflict. By delegating this decision to Gates, Ballmer is safe. Killing the Courier was the right thing, but Ballmer needed bigger balls than his own to kill it.
  - sandee 15y ago
    There is something unique about tablets like iPad, which is tough to understand. When Steve Jobs released it, he emphasized that this was a major event. However at the time, it looked like a overblown iPhone. Personally for me, there are days when i never miss using my iPad, but without PC i cannot do even for few hours. That said, i still feel that there is something i don't understand of this device. Something which old-guards like steve and gates, who have seen it happening once, feel about it and how its going to bring in some big changes in future. Hat's off to Ballmer to call in the right person for task. Hallmark of a good leadership is often about understanding the gravity of situation, know your limitations and find the best person for task. No-wonder companies with leaders like that lead the industry for decades.