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> Back in my dad's days, Obesity was much lower and bodies were much healthier and more vigorous. Erectile dysfunction was much less common, and average serum

by caeril 4y ago

> Back in my dad's days, Obesity was much lower and bodies were much healthier and more vigorous. Erectile dysfunction was much less common, and average serum testosterone levels were higher. I guess it's uncouth to suggest that physical acts are more enjoyable with more physically attractive and capable populations, but I don't think it's something that should be discounted.

otikik 4y ago
> Erectile dysfunction was much less common I have no doubt that self-reports of erectile dysfunction were probably less common at that time. I will say that information about it was certainly less common, and the stigma associated to it was stronger and more prevalent. > I guess it's uncouth to suggest that physical acts are more enjoyable with more physically attractive and capable populations On "capable": Erectile dysfunction can be caused by low levels of testosterone, as well as sexual desire. However, sexual prowess doesn't orbit around the male penis as much as our fathers thought. That is but one dimension. On the subject of attractiveness: I question that men with high levels of testosterone are actually more attractive to women. High testosterone has some obvious advantages (higher strength, bigger muscles, stronger sexual desire) but it also bring some things that are not so universally appraised (more body hair, less head hair, stronger body smell, mode violent behavior, less empathy). That group of traits, and the fact that we live in a more informed society, might be making high-testosterone males less attractive to women, overall. Perhaps that is what is making the testosterone levels go down - the same thing that is making us taller: artificial selection. My (totally unverified) impression is that this is what happens in Japan. Most famous male Japanese actors tend to look "effeminate" to me, as an European. There seems to be very little "strong jaw, big muscles" amongst that group, compared to Europeans or Americans.
- saalweachter 4y ago
  > That group of traits, and the fact that we live in a more informed society, might be making high-testosterone males less attractive to women, overall. I believe Cicero, in one of his speeches, complained about women being into young clean-shaven men, and not the robust full-bearded patrician look.
nunez 4y ago
Source for all of those opinions?

by caeril 4y ago

otikik 4y ago

> Erectile dysfunction was much less common I have no doubt that self-reports of erectile dysfunction were probably less common at that time. I will say that information about it was certainly less common, and the stigma associated to it was stronger and more prevalent. > I guess it's uncouth to suggest that physical acts are more enjoyable with more physically attractive and capable populations On "capable": Erectile dysfunction can be caused by low levels of testosterone, as well as sexual desire. However, sexual prowess doesn't orbit around the male penis as much as our fathers thought. That is but one dimension. On the subject of attractiveness: I question that men with high levels of testosterone are actually more attractive to women. High testosterone has some obvious advantages (higher strength, bigger muscles, stronger sexual desire) but it also bring some things that are not so universally appraised (more body hair, less head hair, stronger body smell, mode violent behavior, less empathy). That group of traits, and the fact that we live in a more informed society, might be making high-testosterone males less attractive to women, overall. Perhaps that is what is making the testosterone levels go down - the same thing that is making us taller: artificial selection. My (totally unverified) impression is that this is what happens in Japan. Most famous male Japanese actors tend to look "effeminate" to me, as an European. There seems to be very little "strong jaw, big muscles" amongst that group, compared to Europeans or Americans.

saalweachter 4y ago
> That group of traits, and the fact that we live in a more informed society, might be making high-testosterone males less attractive to women, overall. I believe Cicero, in one of his speeches, complained about women being into young clean-shaven men, and not the robust full-bearded patrician look.

nunez 4y ago

Source for all of those opinions?