> What will it take for you to actually believe that they may genuinely be changing? First of all, for-profit companies optimize for profit, not truthfulness.

> What will it take for you to actually believe that they may genuinely be changing? First of all, for-profit companies optimize for profit, not truthfulness. > Or you will always prefer to remember the dark times of CEOs past and a workforce that is probably half gone from those days? Second, Microsoft has a 45-years long history of making false promises, paying large bribes and attacking open source. And endless use of EEE. And palladium / trusted computing / secure boot. And adversarial interoperability. And forced obsolescence. It hasn't changed. > You want them to change their name, open source Windows? Nobody expects Microsoft to be consistent with their own claims.