> You end up having to go to events and things you don’t normally do just to gain exposure to women. That's how it was for a long time. And, IMHO, it was not a

> You end up having to go to events and things you don’t normally do just to gain exposure to women. That's how it was for a long time. And, IMHO, it was not a bad setup. I certainly would not call it a miserable reason to participate in those events. For example as a youth I went to dances (which, not knowing how to dance felt very uncomfortable), "intellectual" movies and classical concerts (which, for a small-city oaf who only thought about science, were way out of depth), but looking back I think I got a very good return on the time I spent on those.