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I agree with you here. In itself best would be to not use online banking at all. As I said, this is hypothetical and doesn't apply to my personal situation (any

by p3nm8 4y ago

I agree with you here. In itself best would be to not use online banking at all. As I said, this is hypothetical and doesn't apply to my personal situation (anymore). I just realized it the first time after degoogling and seeing this being a struggle many have when transitioning to a degoogled device, it kept me thinking. Nevertheless, using a banking app is very quick and convenient and is therefore used by many people. I don't see privacy education going that far, that people would abandon this convenience. Therefore I was wondering if an open source application would be possible here and bring the benefits that OSS usually offers in other circumstances.

jqpabc123 4y ago
Nevertheless, using a banking app is very quick and convenient and is therefore used by many people. It's used by most people because they've been taught to think "app". Most people don't even know they have an alternative --- they don't know that they can easily make a link on their home screen to any web site that will look and function just like an app. "Progressive web apps" even remove the browser interface so the casual user can't tell that they're not using an app. Chase; for example, has one. It's also amazing how many developers don't know about PWAs and how they can be used to bypass the politics and extortion of app stores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_application https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_application
- p3nm8 4y ago
  This is very interesting, I did not know about this either and will look into it. Thank you very much! Would you suggest that rather than having discussions like my original question, we should better think about how to take different implementation approaches, thus circumventing several issues which come with 'traditional' apps?
  - jqpabc123 4y ago
    Personal opinion --- most of the "apps" on people's phones could be easily replaced by PWAs with no real loss of functionality. The only reason PWAs aren't more popular is because app stores don't earn anything from them and they can't be used to data mine your phone.
    - p3nm8 4y ago
      I see, this seems to be an unfortunate consequence of the 'app ecosystem'. I'll keep that in mind, thank you very much! :-)

by p3nm8 4y ago

jqpabc123 4y ago

Nevertheless, using a banking app is very quick and convenient and is therefore used by many people. It's used by most people because they've been taught to think "app". Most people don't even know they have an alternative --- they don't know that they can easily make a link on their home screen to any web site that will look and function just like an app. "Progressive web apps" even remove the browser interface so the casual user can't tell that they're not using an app. Chase; for example, has one. It's also amazing how many developers don't know about PWAs and how they can be used to bypass the politics and extortion of app stores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_application https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_application

p3nm8 4y ago
This is very interesting, I did not know about this either and will look into it. Thank you very much! Would you suggest that rather than having discussions like my original question, we should better think about how to take different implementation approaches, thus circumventing several issues which come with 'traditional' apps?
- jqpabc123 4y ago
  Personal opinion --- most of the "apps" on people's phones could be easily replaced by PWAs with no real loss of functionality. The only reason PWAs aren't more popular is because app stores don't earn anything from them and they can't be used to data mine your phone.
  - p3nm8 4y ago
    I see, this seems to be an unfortunate consequence of the 'app ecosystem'. I'll keep that in mind, thank you very much! :-)