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Not for exerybody. There are people in this world who care about others regardless of personal benefits.

by nonrandomstring 4y ago

judge2020 4y ago
To get pedantic, the benefit to you for caring for other people is that you feel like you're a good person.
- beebmam 4y ago
  And that society continues to function. A social contract
- panta 4y ago
  Some people act according to internal core values, even when the outcome of the act doesn't bring visible rewards or good feelings.
jollofricepeas 4y ago
Source?
- skywal_l 4y ago
  My parents.
mikkergp 4y ago
And those people are not making software.
- account42 4y ago
  What makes you say that?
  - mikkergp 4y ago
    Honestly I don’t think I have anything to contribute to this idea that doesn’t devolve into a philosophical question or can humans be selfless or is it selfish to want to help people. But I would be curious to meet someone who was truly selfless in software engineering, I think most examples of philanthropic software engineering are driven more by ideological rather than humanitarian reasons.
    - nonrandomstring 4y ago
      I'll just put a couple of things out there, as honest conversation about the language I see on HN, rather than nitpicking about what you say personally. > devolve into a philosophical question I'd say evolve. Philosophy is the "Master science". It's good to understand the literal meaning of the word "love of wisdom" and that the highest degree awarded is a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD). Not sure where the disdain for "philosophical questions" comes from in some quarters. Things like NP completeness and the quantum/wave nature of reality are the kind of questions that we sometimes ascend to. > philanthropic software engineering are driven more by ideological rather than humanitarian reasons. Firstly I think something can be both ideological and successfully humanitarian. The former describes the intent and the latter an outcome. Also (I'm not suggesting you imply this here) "ideological" tends to be used around these parts as a sort of derogatory qualifier. Ideologies can be good or bad. In general I prefer people who are up front about their ideology. It's a credit to many people that they have something they are prepared to stick by. respects

Not for exerybody. There are people in this world who care about others regardless of personal benefits.

judge2020 4y ago

To get pedantic, the benefit to you for caring for other people is that you feel like you're a good person.

beebmam 4y ago
And that society continues to function. A social contract
panta 4y ago
Some people act according to internal core values, even when the outcome of the act doesn't bring visible rewards or good feelings.

jollofricepeas 4y ago

Source?

skywal_l 4y ago
My parents.

mikkergp 4y ago

And those people are not making software.

account42 4y ago
What makes you say that?
- mikkergp 4y ago
  Honestly I don’t think I have anything to contribute to this idea that doesn’t devolve into a philosophical question or can humans be selfless or is it selfish to want to help people. But I would be curious to meet someone who was truly selfless in software engineering, I think most examples of philanthropic software engineering are driven more by ideological rather than humanitarian reasons.
  - nonrandomstring 4y ago
    I'll just put a couple of things out there, as honest conversation about the language I see on HN, rather than nitpicking about what you say personally. > devolve into a philosophical question I'd say evolve. Philosophy is the "Master science". It's good to understand the literal meaning of the word "love of wisdom" and that the highest degree awarded is a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD). Not sure where the disdain for "philosophical questions" comes from in some quarters. Things like NP completeness and the quantum/wave nature of reality are the kind of questions that we sometimes ascend to. > philanthropic software engineering are driven more by ideological rather than humanitarian reasons. Firstly I think something can be both ideological and successfully humanitarian. The former describes the intent and the latter an outcome. Also (I'm not suggesting you imply this here) "ideological" tends to be used around these parts as a sort of derogatory qualifier. Ideologies can be good or bad. In general I prefer people who are up front about their ideology. It's a credit to many people that they have something they are prepared to stick by. respects