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Every concertgoer knows it: Most classical music written since 1945 ranges from boring to unendurable. What went wrong? Shame its behind a paywall, this is an
by codeulike 4y ago
Every concertgoer knows it: Most classical music written since 1945 ranges from boring to unendurable. What went wrong?
Shame its behind a paywall, this is an interesting sounding article.
Modern classical music needed to distinguish itself from popular music and the only way to do that was to go ultra snobbish.
Like fashion and modern art and other areas with a high bullshit ratio, 'distinction' remains very important and increasingly the only way to achieve that it to head categorically in the opposite direction to 'popular'. Fashion is able to achieve 'distinction' but just making really expensive stuff, but you can't do that for music. You could try charging £1000 for a ticket to a concert but then you'd look silly when no-one turned up. Fashion doesn't have that problem because it they dont actually sell any £10000 dresses nobody knows. Damien Hirst can cut a cow in half and put it in a tank (admittedly, an impressive concept and execution of an idea that genuinely feels like art to me) and because its a single artifact it has cachet and can sell for $5m. Music doesn't have that option.
The better way to do modern classical properly is to make music that sounds good, but only sounds good from about the third time you hear it. Experimental but still likeable. Thats really hard though so not many people try. Autechre can do this. Philip Glass also.
- seanhunter 4y agoThis is a common opinion that just doesn’t stand up when you actually listen to music. Check out Arvo Part (eg “Cantus in memory of Benjamin Britain” or “Fur Alina” or “Tabula Rasa”) Mark Anthony Turnage eg “Coraline”. Judith Weir “We are Shadows” I could go on and on. There are lots of great 21st century and late 20th century works in the Classical tradition
- TheOtherHobbes 4y agoGreatness is defined by extreme and unusual talent combined with lasting cultural impact. With respect to the composers you mentioned, their cultural impact has been tiny - in the sense that their influence on current and future composers and audiences is likely to be negligible. There's a point at which a medium becomes stale no matter what you do with it. No one declaims epic poetry from memory or writes complex medieval polyphonic vocal music now, and IMO orchestral/classical music is going the same way. Bach to (roughly) Berg's opera Wozzeck will keep being played, and perhaps Reich and Glass from the 60s/70s. But I'm not hearing much else that has broad non-niche impact and appeal.
- teh_klev 4y ago> Shame its behind a paywall, this is an interesting sounding article. https://archive.ph/q7MmG https://archive.ph/q7MmG