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> dissonant harmonies, inhuman rhythms and charmless sound patterns If one wanted to check those, what are some of those horrific modern compositions?

nirse 4y ago
here are some of the better known 'inhumane' pieces, all from the post-war European modernists, which I all like a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfpLuk0-MY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfpLuk0-MY (Klavierstueck ix by Stockhausen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceXWHdFZdqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceXWHdFZdqA (Pli selon pli by Boulez) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWlwCRlVh7M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWlwCRlVh7M (Athmosphere by Ligeti) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XSmiGO3XE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XSmiGO3XE (Sinfonia by Berio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI (Metastasis by Xenakis) And a more recent work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKoN_HYJBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKoN_HYJBg (La commedia by Andriessen)
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Having skipped through all of those, I do indeed not like most ;) La commedia was acceptable, but still too calm for me (my main genres are folk rock and metal, sometimes grindcore and noise). Sinfonia by Berio, though, is what I will now spend half an hour listening to, because the glimpses I got were amazing. Thanks!
maze-le 4y ago
Probably referring to Györgi Ligeti -- IMO one of the greatest composers of the 20th century. Or more generally to the post WWII Avant Garde: Ligeti, Boulez, Stockhausen, Berio. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrJmxy4q3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrJmxy4q3A About his technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolyphony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolyphony
- cardiffspaceman 4y ago
  Excerpted in the 2001 score at the scene where the hominids confront the Monolith. I don't play or sing any music, so sometimes I'm in awe of a piece but I can't figure out how it works. At first I thought I was hearing something that required instruments with access to arbitrary pitches within their range, such as voice, violin, or trombone, but then I saw the flutes and that guess had to be rejected. This 'Requiem' is amazing. Edit to add: a technical problem on my end had me finally hearing the audio at about 5:00, not realizing how the piece had played out prior to that. In case anyone is puzzled.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Not quite my style, but what an impressive piece, it’s giving me goose bumps. I might have to save that for when I’m in the mood for something like it.
DocTomoe 4y ago
That massively depends on whom you ask. Karl-Heinz Stockhausen often is mentioned in this context - but that guy is an acquired taste, and the older I get, the more I like his work. Morton Feldman is also a household name, which I personally find compositionally uninteresting.
ginko 4y ago
It's an internet meme, but it illustrates it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjc-WqFo5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjc-WqFo5I (fwiw, I really liked Blackwood's Microtonal Etudes)
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Heh, there are some that remind me of progressive rock ;) It does actually show the range quite well, I might have to check out some mentioned names.
watersb 4y ago
Then there's harmonic chant, an American composer David Hykes. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL7DCiqr-NKC1Ok9mBQICClJjyOVVklPf https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL7DCiqr-NKC1Ok9mBQICCl... I got really into this technique for a while, and now the kids these days think it's a joke. Oh well. It was different and fun.

nirse 4y ago

here are some of the better known 'inhumane' pieces, all from the post-war European modernists, which I all like a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfpLuk0-MY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfpLuk0-MY (Klavierstueck ix by Stockhausen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceXWHdFZdqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceXWHdFZdqA (Pli selon pli by Boulez) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWlwCRlVh7M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWlwCRlVh7M (Athmosphere by Ligeti) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XSmiGO3XE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1XSmiGO3XE (Sinfonia by Berio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI (Metastasis by Xenakis) And a more recent work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKoN_HYJBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKoN_HYJBg (La commedia by Andriessen)

Semaphor 4y ago
Having skipped through all of those, I do indeed not like most ;) La commedia was acceptable, but still too calm for me (my main genres are folk rock and metal, sometimes grindcore and noise). Sinfonia by Berio, though, is what I will now spend half an hour listening to, because the glimpses I got were amazing. Thanks!

maze-le 4y ago

Probably referring to Györgi Ligeti -- IMO one of the greatest composers of the 20th century. Or more generally to the post WWII Avant Garde: Ligeti, Boulez, Stockhausen, Berio. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrJmxy4q3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrJmxy4q3A About his technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolyphony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolyphony

cardiffspaceman 4y ago
Excerpted in the 2001 score at the scene where the hominids confront the Monolith. I don't play or sing any music, so sometimes I'm in awe of a piece but I can't figure out how it works. At first I thought I was hearing something that required instruments with access to arbitrary pitches within their range, such as voice, violin, or trombone, but then I saw the flutes and that guess had to be rejected. This 'Requiem' is amazing. Edit to add: a technical problem on my end had me finally hearing the audio at about 5:00, not realizing how the piece had played out prior to that. In case anyone is puzzled.
Semaphor 4y ago
Not quite my style, but what an impressive piece, it’s giving me goose bumps. I might have to save that for when I’m in the mood for something like it.

DocTomoe 4y ago

That massively depends on whom you ask. Karl-Heinz Stockhausen often is mentioned in this context - but that guy is an acquired taste, and the older I get, the more I like his work. Morton Feldman is also a household name, which I personally find compositionally uninteresting.

ginko 4y ago

It's an internet meme, but it illustrates it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjc-WqFo5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjc-WqFo5I (fwiw, I really liked Blackwood's Microtonal Etudes)

Semaphor 4y ago
Heh, there are some that remind me of progressive rock ;) It does actually show the range quite well, I might have to check out some mentioned names.

watersb 4y ago

Then there's harmonic chant, an American composer David Hykes. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL7DCiqr-NKC1Ok9mBQICClJjyOVVklPf https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL7DCiqr-NKC1Ok9mBQICCl... I got really into this technique for a while, and now the kids these days think it's a joke. Oh well. It was different and fun.