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I'm on Linode. Linode is down because Cloudflare is down. Can't login to their control panel, etc. You'd need to go fully independent and roll your own, with

by buro9 4y ago

I'm on Linode. Linode is down because Cloudflare is down. Can't login to their control panel, etc. You'd need to go fully independent and roll your own, with zero dependencies, to really make this work.

stephenr 4y ago
Linode control panel being down doesn't mean that the servers they host are down. For *most* web facing apps/sites, a site hosted on e.g. Linode like this, but not using Cloudflare, would be unaffected by such an outage.
- Operyl 4y ago
  I guess it depends. If you scale up and down via the API and can’t access the API .. you have a pretty good chance of a down scenario if you had a traffic spike you can’t scale for.
feross 4y ago
Does Linode really use Cloudflare? They were bought by Akamai earlier this year.
- buro9 4y ago
  Feel free to try https://login.linode.com/login https://login.linode.com/login Whilst the incident is happening you'll see the Cloudflare 522 page.
  - archon810 4y ago
    Interestingly enough, I'm already logged in, and the homepage as well as the rest of the Linode dashboard are operational. It seems only the login page is down.
- fomine3 4y ago
  Google's Firebase uses Fastly even after acquisition. It's possible Linode to continue using Cloudflare.
rootsu 4y ago
Isn't linode owned by Akamai now?
- rrix2 4y ago
  imo it's messed up that they haven't rebuilt their network infrastructure in the four months since they got acquired
iepathos 4y ago
Yeah, they'd also be dependent on their ISP still if they're "fully independent". Good luck dealing with massive traffic spikes on a single bare-metal box and good luck maintaining a similar uptime to cloudflare's 98.84% uptime lol
- toast0 4y ago
  Most (or at least many) colo facilities have multiple transit ISPs, some are big enough to have decent peering as well. I'm assuming 98.84% uptime is a joke? Less than 4+ days of downtime is something I could manage from a home connection most years, if I had a static IP.
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 4y ago
  98.84? that a real number? that's pretty low

by buro9 4y ago

stephenr 4y ago

Linode control panel being down doesn't mean that the servers they host are down. For *most* web facing apps/sites, a site hosted on e.g. Linode like this, but not using Cloudflare, would be unaffected by such an outage.

Operyl 4y ago
I guess it depends. If you scale up and down via the API and can’t access the API .. you have a pretty good chance of a down scenario if you had a traffic spike you can’t scale for.

feross 4y ago

Does Linode really use Cloudflare? They were bought by Akamai earlier this year.

buro9 4y ago
Feel free to try https://login.linode.com/login https://login.linode.com/login Whilst the incident is happening you'll see the Cloudflare 522 page.
- archon810 4y ago
  Interestingly enough, I'm already logged in, and the homepage as well as the rest of the Linode dashboard are operational. It seems only the login page is down.
fomine3 4y ago
Google's Firebase uses Fastly even after acquisition. It's possible Linode to continue using Cloudflare.

rootsu 4y ago

Isn't linode owned by Akamai now?

rrix2 4y ago
imo it's messed up that they haven't rebuilt their network infrastructure in the four months since they got acquired

iepathos 4y ago

Yeah, they'd also be dependent on their ISP still if they're "fully independent". Good luck dealing with massive traffic spikes on a single bare-metal box and good luck maintaining a similar uptime to cloudflare's 98.84% uptime lol

toast0 4y ago
Most (or at least many) colo facilities have multiple transit ISPs, some are big enough to have decent peering as well. I'm assuming 98.84% uptime is a joke? Less than 4+ days of downtime is something I could manage from a home connection most years, if I had a static IP.
8n4vidtmkvmk 4y ago
98.84? that a real number? that's pretty low