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This just gives fuel to the Christian street preachers who complain about pride being shoved in their faces and being unable to opt-out. To oversimplify and qu

This just gives fuel to the Christian street preachers who complain about pride being shoved in their faces and being unable to opt-out. To oversimplify and quote Obiwan, you were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it. There are some people you're never going to win over, and pushing them into a position of persecution is sadly a naive political move.

aaomidi 4y ago
I legitimately don’t care what the Christian preechers are complaining about. They’re not the group I’m optimizing for, and their population is dropping YoY. If the existence of a group of people is triggering them that much, then they can go disconnect and live in isolation or something. No one here is, for example, calling out marriot for shoving bibles and Book of Mormon into my face. Christianity is constantly shoved into my face with no ability to opt out. They can deal with pride flags.
- barrysteve 4y ago
  This is the naive blindness. There is acres of christian art and media that simply doesn't register for the populace. People scroll by Jude Law as the Young Pope on Netflix and ignore the methodist Christian substructure of star wars. People can be told via memes that ObiWan is like space jesus and it's like water off a duck's back. Christianity doesn't oppress people, they can't even identify it, when it is infront of the open eyes. People naturally don't even know what it is, that they reject. Can't describe what a priest would even say. Bibles in the marriot is a charity and mormons are debatably not christian at all. Joseph smith was not jesus, sorry. But make no mistake we all know what pride is, what lgbtq people want legislated and exactly how it's going to affect us. Our choice be damned.
  - Conclusionist 4y ago
    1. You’re claiming Christianity is so normalized people don’t notice it. That’s exactly the point with pride. 2. Am I reading this right? You think LGBT people and pride is oppressing people more than Christianity?
    - barrysteve 4y ago
      1. Mcdonalds is 'normalized'. Everybody knows you can get a double quarter pounder at mcdonalds. Christanity is not noticed. The public rarely knows the content of the faith it rejects. And the point is reinforced by the complete lack of knowledge about what it is and how pride might impact it, in this conversation. 2. "Normalization" and "oppression" are not words that mean what I'm talking about. Christianity is "unknown" to the public and the LGBT politicians turn a blind eye to people they don't want to relate to. They are tripping over landmines they don't see. I pointed this out and was met with the same old desire to flee from relating to Christianity, as we see from lgbtq activists all the time. Not everybody thinks pride is a good thing nor that it should be shoved in their face, thinking that media spam is going to result in political conversions is hopelessly naive to how faith functions, what christianity is and without mutual knowledge of one another's worldview, it'll never be resolved in love.
      - tadfisher 4y ago
        I would argue that practitioners of the faith rarely know the content of the faith they practice. Hence the extreme anti-LGBT stance pushed in their politics and preferred media, despite the conspicuous lack of relevant scripture. And this extremity is definitely something LGBT folks see all the time. Their states are passing laws banning them from sports and bathrooms. LGBT issues can no longer be mentioned in their schools. So don't play the pity card when Christians behave like monsters, and the non-Christian world responds in kind.
        barrysteve 4y ago
        I have zero interest in playing the 'pity card. Even though compassion is a good thing. I'm just saying the truth as I see it and think shared knowledge should be the basis of political unity, not activist tribalism.
        the_only_law 4y ago
        > not activist tribalism Ohh the irony.
  - jen20 4y ago
    > But make no mistake we all know what pride is, what lgbtq people want legislated As a European atheist living in Texas, I know exactly what Christians want legislating, since they never stop bleating about it. Ronald Reagan Jr appears to be the only person willing to hold America to its own basic constitutional amendments, frankly.

aaomidi 4y ago

I legitimately don’t care what the Christian preechers are complaining about. They’re not the group I’m optimizing for, and their population is dropping YoY. If the existence of a group of people is triggering them that much, then they can go disconnect and live in isolation or something. No one here is, for example, calling out marriot for shoving bibles and Book of Mormon into my face. Christianity is constantly shoved into my face with no ability to opt out. They can deal with pride flags.

barrysteve 4y ago
This is the naive blindness. There is acres of christian art and media that simply doesn't register for the populace. People scroll by Jude Law as the Young Pope on Netflix and ignore the methodist Christian substructure of star wars. People can be told via memes that ObiWan is like space jesus and it's like water off a duck's back. Christianity doesn't oppress people, they can't even identify it, when it is infront of the open eyes. People naturally don't even know what it is, that they reject. Can't describe what a priest would even say. Bibles in the marriot is a charity and mormons are debatably not christian at all. Joseph smith was not jesus, sorry. But make no mistake we all know what pride is, what lgbtq people want legislated and exactly how it's going to affect us. Our choice be damned.
- Conclusionist 4y ago
  1. You’re claiming Christianity is so normalized people don’t notice it. That’s exactly the point with pride. 2. Am I reading this right? You think LGBT people and pride is oppressing people more than Christianity?
  - barrysteve 4y ago
    1. Mcdonalds is 'normalized'. Everybody knows you can get a double quarter pounder at mcdonalds. Christanity is not noticed. The public rarely knows the content of the faith it rejects. And the point is reinforced by the complete lack of knowledge about what it is and how pride might impact it, in this conversation. 2. "Normalization" and "oppression" are not words that mean what I'm talking about. Christianity is "unknown" to the public and the LGBT politicians turn a blind eye to people they don't want to relate to. They are tripping over landmines they don't see. I pointed this out and was met with the same old desire to flee from relating to Christianity, as we see from lgbtq activists all the time. Not everybody thinks pride is a good thing nor that it should be shoved in their face, thinking that media spam is going to result in political conversions is hopelessly naive to how faith functions, what christianity is and without mutual knowledge of one another's worldview, it'll never be resolved in love.
    - tadfisher 4y ago
      I would argue that practitioners of the faith rarely know the content of the faith they practice. Hence the extreme anti-LGBT stance pushed in their politics and preferred media, despite the conspicuous lack of relevant scripture. And this extremity is definitely something LGBT folks see all the time. Their states are passing laws banning them from sports and bathrooms. LGBT issues can no longer be mentioned in their schools. So don't play the pity card when Christians behave like monsters, and the non-Christian world responds in kind.
      - barrysteve 4y ago
        I have zero interest in playing the 'pity card. Even though compassion is a good thing. I'm just saying the truth as I see it and think shared knowledge should be the basis of political unity, not activist tribalism.
        the_only_law 4y ago
        > not activist tribalism Ohh the irony.
- jen20 4y ago
  > But make no mistake we all know what pride is, what lgbtq people want legislated As a European atheist living in Texas, I know exactly what Christians want legislating, since they never stop bleating about it. Ronald Reagan Jr appears to be the only person willing to hold America to its own basic constitutional amendments, frankly.