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Post the salary range. From what I can tell DevOps is the hardest thing to hire for right now, and it commands the highest salaries. It's tough to find someone

Post the salary range. From what I can tell DevOps is the hardest thing to hire for right now, and it commands the highest salaries. It's tough to find someone who can code and troubleshoot code problems, but also has all the skills of a sys/net/cloud/k8s admin, and is willing to put up with the higher stress of that role. Most qualified people have already done their best to get a job they're happy with. Personally I'm not making FAANG money, but as a self-employed freelancer I still do pretty well. So it's hard to see hidden-salary listings as anything other than a waste of time. 90% of them will come in too low. Things like a four-hour coding assignment just prove to me that it's smarter not to bother. If you make it that pointless for qualified candidates you'll only hear from the unqualified ones.

singron 4y ago
As someone from Colorado, the no-salary listings are basically a disqualifier since it demonstrates that the company is willing to break the law to try to take advantage of you.
usrn 4y ago
This. I think I'm still technically in the "junior" category (coming up on four years of experience not counting internships) but I'm pretty much financially independent at this point. I only really stay employed for luxuries, funding for side projects, and the very good health insurance (and the whole "having responsibilities orders your life" thing but I know well how easy coasting is.) I have to imagine senior SWEs have a very very low tolerance for BS and can demand quite a lot. Speaking of BS that 4hr take home project without even having a salary range is a lot. Even for Junior engineers here we have the manager and a couple engineers sit with the candidate during the coding test.
- moneywoes 4y ago
  How did you make so much that quickly?
ryathal 4y ago
if you are expecting a DEvOps guy to know C#/Java/C++ and all the Jenkins/sys/k8s/cloud stuff, you want a unicorn. That person is also definitely not going to put up with a 4hr test. If you want a senior DevOps person that knows the Jenkins/sys/k8s/cloud stuff write a basic test for that and don't test them on stuff they don't really need to know.

singron 4y ago

As someone from Colorado, the no-salary listings are basically a disqualifier since it demonstrates that the company is willing to break the law to try to take advantage of you.

usrn 4y ago

This. I think I'm still technically in the "junior" category (coming up on four years of experience not counting internships) but I'm pretty much financially independent at this point. I only really stay employed for luxuries, funding for side projects, and the very good health insurance (and the whole "having responsibilities orders your life" thing but I know well how easy coasting is.) I have to imagine senior SWEs have a very very low tolerance for BS and can demand quite a lot. Speaking of BS that 4hr take home project without even having a salary range is a lot. Even for Junior engineers here we have the manager and a couple engineers sit with the candidate during the coding test.

moneywoes 4y ago
How did you make so much that quickly?

ryathal 4y ago

if you are expecting a DEvOps guy to know C#/Java/C++ and all the Jenkins/sys/k8s/cloud stuff, you want a unicorn. That person is also definitely not going to put up with a 4hr test. If you want a senior DevOps person that knows the Jenkins/sys/k8s/cloud stuff write a basic test for that and don't test them on stuff they don't really need to know.