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>have a network and can say "hey I'm looking" and instantly have multiple options that won't have them do more than talk to the team and manager for an hour or

by lbrito 4y ago

>have a network and can say "hey I'm looking" and instantly have multiple options that won't have them do more than talk to the team and manager for an hour or two. Wow. I have 10 years of work experience, the last few being "senior". I have a few friends and many recruiters I could reach out to, but absolutely expecting a full fledged 30-round interview like anyone else. I envy you!

niuzeta 4y ago
Likewise. I do envy the GP. Currently looking for work, and this has not been my experience.
guitarsteve 4y ago
Same! In case others feel bad reading this, I’m in the same boat. Every place I’ve worked has a multi step interview process and as far as I know referrals don’t get to skip it. Maybe it’s different types of work (consulting?) or companies (earlier stage startups?). I don’t think I’m particularly good or bad at networking but fully expect to have to do coding interviews and/or take homes. Or maybe I really do need to get a stronger network!
hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
Don't feel too bad. One counterpoint to this is that most companies I've worked at will require even highly recommended employees to go through the same interview process as everyone else, primarily for fairness and diversity reasons. Getting a recommendation may "put you to the front of the line", and may allow you to skip a basic screening call, but honestly I think most well run organizations won't skip the interview process even if it's a well-known "superstar" - they would instead just change some of the interviews to let that superstar demonstrate their in-depth expertise in their niche.
foobiekr 4y ago
It goes away at year 15 or so if you have a good reputation. I resigned my previous role out of sheer boredom and a desire to work on something new and have been flooded with no/fit-only interview offers, not that i'm going to follow up on them.
PainfullyNormal 4y ago
Same here at 20 years. It definitely seems to be one of those things that's not universal to all Senior devs.
imetatroll 4y ago
Same boat but a bit worse: 15 years and a "network" that consists of two people from my very first job as a developer. It is a bit rough knowing that I am so intrinsically bad at networking.

by lbrito 4y ago

niuzeta 4y ago

Likewise. I do envy the GP. Currently looking for work, and this has not been my experience.

guitarsteve 4y ago

Same! In case others feel bad reading this, I’m in the same boat. Every place I’ve worked has a multi step interview process and as far as I know referrals don’t get to skip it. Maybe it’s different types of work (consulting?) or companies (earlier stage startups?). I don’t think I’m particularly good or bad at networking but fully expect to have to do coding interviews and/or take homes. Or maybe I really do need to get a stronger network!

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago

Don't feel too bad. One counterpoint to this is that most companies I've worked at will require even highly recommended employees to go through the same interview process as everyone else, primarily for fairness and diversity reasons. Getting a recommendation may "put you to the front of the line", and may allow you to skip a basic screening call, but honestly I think most well run organizations won't skip the interview process even if it's a well-known "superstar" - they would instead just change some of the interviews to let that superstar demonstrate their in-depth expertise in their niche.

foobiekr 4y ago

It goes away at year 15 or so if you have a good reputation. I resigned my previous role out of sheer boredom and a desire to work on something new and have been flooded with no/fit-only interview offers, not that i'm going to follow up on them.

PainfullyNormal 4y ago

Same here at 20 years. It definitely seems to be one of those things that's not universal to all Senior devs.

imetatroll 4y ago

Same boat but a bit worse: 15 years and a "network" that consists of two people from my very first job as a developer. It is a bit rough knowing that I am so intrinsically bad at networking.