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This is a straw man argument. Blog posts like this leave a bad taste in my mouth because of how transparently misleading they are. Almost every SaaS business I

This is a straw man argument. Blog posts like this leave a bad taste in my mouth because of how transparently misleading they are. Almost every SaaS business I’ve run into allows you to SSO with providers like Google, Office365, Slack, and other common sources of identity. If your company is paying for SAML through Okta, you can afford enterprise pricing. The way I know is Okta’s UX is horrible and only enterprise scale companies would inflict that upon their employees.

judge2020 4y ago
https://sso.tax/ https://sso.tax/
- flappyeagle 4y ago
  This website is… plain wrong? The first company listed is Airtable, which offers google SSO on their free tier.
ShakataGaNai 4y ago
> If your company is paying for SAML through Okta, you can afford enterprise pricing. Okta's list price starts about $7/user/mo - https://www.okta.com/pricing/ https://www.okta.com/pricing/ - That's not a huge sum. And in this increasing hybrid world, not uncommon for companies to be less than 25 employees and buying into SSO. Okta's also probably the most expensive of the major dedicated players in that space (like Ping, OneLogin, etc). Now lets look at some end systems: * https://slack.com/pricing https://slack.com/pricing -- Almost doubles in price to get SAML. $5.83 /user/mo increase. * https://zoom.us/pricing https://zoom.us/pricing -- $50/user/year increase (~$4.14/user/mo) * https://www.atlassian.com/software/access/pricing https://www.atlassian.com/software/access/pricing -- $4/user/mo A lot of other systems don't even publish their prices, like Smartsheet. But just two of those systems alone are more than the cost of Okta. And hardly any companies have only "2 or 3" systems to SAML. So as a business you can get a SSO provider for reasonable cost, but end up paying many multiples more than the cost of the provider...to the services to get support. Is each individual service breaking the bank? No. But are they a problem for IT staffs to get budget cumulatively? Very much so.
- flappyeagle 4y ago
  I didn’t say you can pay for enterprise pricing because okta is expensive monetarily. I said it’s because oktas UX is terrible and only enterprise companies would force that on their employees.

judge2020 4y ago

https://sso.tax/ https://sso.tax/

flappyeagle 4y ago
This website is… plain wrong? The first company listed is Airtable, which offers google SSO on their free tier.

ShakataGaNai 4y ago

> If your company is paying for SAML through Okta, you can afford enterprise pricing. Okta's list price starts about $7/user/mo - https://www.okta.com/pricing/ https://www.okta.com/pricing/ - That's not a huge sum. And in this increasing hybrid world, not uncommon for companies to be less than 25 employees and buying into SSO. Okta's also probably the most expensive of the major dedicated players in that space (like Ping, OneLogin, etc). Now lets look at some end systems: * https://slack.com/pricing https://slack.com/pricing -- Almost doubles in price to get SAML. $5.83 /user/mo increase. * https://zoom.us/pricing https://zoom.us/pricing -- $50/user/year increase (~$4.14/user/mo) * https://www.atlassian.com/software/access/pricing https://www.atlassian.com/software/access/pricing -- $4/user/mo A lot of other systems don't even publish their prices, like Smartsheet. But just two of those systems alone are more than the cost of Okta. And hardly any companies have only "2 or 3" systems to SAML. So as a business you can get a SSO provider for reasonable cost, but end up paying many multiples more than the cost of the provider...to the services to get support. Is each individual service breaking the bank? No. But are they a problem for IT staffs to get budget cumulatively? Very much so.

flappyeagle 4y ago
I didn’t say you can pay for enterprise pricing because okta is expensive monetarily. I said it’s because oktas UX is terrible and only enterprise companies would force that on their employees.