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This is such a common trope I have to push back. FB absolutely depends on user growth so you are a customer as well. Advertisers would leave if you left. If you

This is such a common trope I have to push back. FB absolutely depends on user growth so you are a customer as well. Advertisers would leave if you left. If you go to tiktok because meta’s products aren’t as good/fun/cool that is a huge problem. It’s possible for companies to have multiple customers, in fact it’s pretty common.

babypuncher 4y ago
TikTok is not really a direct competitor to Facebook. I'm trapped on Facebook because that is were a lot of my friends and family are, and FB Messenger is the only real way I have to talk to a lot of them. TikTok really only competes with a small part of Facebook's business (Instagram). Apple does not enjoy that kind of vendor lock-in. The impetus to move to competitor when you are unhappy is also a lot stronger when staying with your current provider costs you money.
- LordDragonfang 4y ago
  >TikTok is not really a direct competitor to Facebook. TikTok isn't a direct competitor in your age demographic. Almost no one under the age of 20 has a Facebook account nowadays - when I asked high schoolers a few years ago it was Instagram instead, and TikTok is increasingly getting bigger.
  - babypuncher 4y ago
    I use both. TikTok feels more like YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram. It is a social media platform where most users follow a relatively small number of influencers, rather than interfacing with their peers. Facebook is more of a communication platform between peers. It kind of competes more with email and messaging clients. Facebook losing sight on this and pushing people to larger more impersonal groups and influencers is why I think they are dying, because everyone else already does that better. For my immediate family, Facebook has largely been supplanted by iMessage and iCloud. We hold conversations and group chats in iMessage, and share photos and videos through iCloud. TikTok fills a different purpose entirely.
dickersnoodle 4y ago
According to Merriam-Webster, "customer" is defined as "one that purchases a commodity or service" so it isn't really a trope.
kergonath 4y ago
> FB absolutely depends on user growth so you are a customer as well This does not follow. KFC depends on chicken production scaling up as well, it does not make the chickens their customers.

babypuncher 4y ago

TikTok is not really a direct competitor to Facebook. I'm trapped on Facebook because that is were a lot of my friends and family are, and FB Messenger is the only real way I have to talk to a lot of them. TikTok really only competes with a small part of Facebook's business (Instagram). Apple does not enjoy that kind of vendor lock-in. The impetus to move to competitor when you are unhappy is also a lot stronger when staying with your current provider costs you money.

LordDragonfang 4y ago
>TikTok is not really a direct competitor to Facebook. TikTok isn't a direct competitor in your age demographic. Almost no one under the age of 20 has a Facebook account nowadays - when I asked high schoolers a few years ago it was Instagram instead, and TikTok is increasingly getting bigger.
- babypuncher 4y ago
  I use both. TikTok feels more like YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram. It is a social media platform where most users follow a relatively small number of influencers, rather than interfacing with their peers. Facebook is more of a communication platform between peers. It kind of competes more with email and messaging clients. Facebook losing sight on this and pushing people to larger more impersonal groups and influencers is why I think they are dying, because everyone else already does that better. For my immediate family, Facebook has largely been supplanted by iMessage and iCloud. We hold conversations and group chats in iMessage, and share photos and videos through iCloud. TikTok fills a different purpose entirely.

dickersnoodle 4y ago

According to Merriam-Webster, "customer" is defined as "one that purchases a commodity or service" so it isn't really a trope.

kergonath 4y ago

> FB absolutely depends on user growth so you are a customer as well This does not follow. KFC depends on chicken production scaling up as well, it does not make the chickens their customers.