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> Youtube does state that explicit materials are allowed for educational content, but if their copyright machines can't even distinguish white noise from copyri
by shalmanese 4y ago
> Youtube does state that explicit materials are allowed for educational content, but if their copyright machines can't even distinguish white noise from copyrighted music then I have very little hope that context like "educational discussion" will ever be recognised automatically.
But why the obsession with recognizing it automatically?
I've long wondered why we never developed a digital system for asserting copyright rights. Like, you register a piece of IP with Google and Google should give you a key. You can then use that key to sign certificates that grant certain people legal use of your content on Google. When I go upload a video, I upload all of the relevant keys that indicate that I've included certain copyright material in my video but I've cleared it up with rights holders ahead of time. Video game companies, for example, could one click hand out keys for free to make sure game streamers could legally stream their games.
Similarly, Google could outsource their enforcement of "for educational discussion" to individual organizations. Cornell could agree that staff uploading content that is in keeping with Google's TOS is an official part of Cornell disciplinary proceedings. In return, Cornell has to place a bond at Google that would be forfeited if they ever broke their agreement. Insurance companies could insure such bonds by evaluating whether Cornell has the right processes in place that would prevent TOS violating content from ever appearing on Cornell's YT channel. In return, Google agrees to turn off all ML content moderation on Cornell's account.
This could easily scale down to smaller channels. If I'm a video essayist channel, I could agree to take a mandatory training course and put down a $X00 bond to have my channel be free from all ML copyright checking up to my first X0,000 followers/X00,000,000 views. If a human judges me to have violated the TOS, the $X00 is there to pay for that human's time. No spam channel would find it worthwhile to go through verification and they would still be subjected to the normal ML checking but people who depend on YT for professional reasons could be more certain of avoiding automated false positives & negatives.
- fatherzine 4y agoQ: But why the obsession with recognizing it automatically? A: "500 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute worldwide." https://www.oberlo.com/blog/youtube-statistics https://www.oberlo.com/blog/youtube-statistics A bit of arithmetic gives 30000 days of video uploaded to YouTube per day. Manually reviewing all that content would require an army of people.
- shalmanese 4y agoWhich I take as a given premise at the start. The bulk of the content would be ML reviewed but you could opt out of review entirely and take on the burden of legal responsibility instead of YT.
- fatherzine 4y agoThanks for the clarification, I might have misread your OP. Legal responsibility is an interesting angle, somewhat concerned about its practicality in the land of punitive damage, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau...
- jeroenhd 4y agoWhy automated? Quantity. There aren't enough people to review all YouTube footage and nobody could afford them anyway. YouTube would need strict limits on contents to get enough human analist and the platform would wither and die. Why not add a complex system of DRM keys? Because the current system works, there is no de facto standard of copyright ownership (though certificates would work pretty easily, even X509 certs have an authority, an expiration date, and a revocation system) and there's no interest in setting something like that up. Currently, copyright holders have all the power and Google doesn't really care about rights of the people who upload stuff. Why invest money into change? What competitor does it better?
- shalmanese 4y agoThe idea isn't for people to review the content, the idea is to opt out of content review entirely and replace it with your own human review system and take on the legal responsibility that entails.