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While the US has approximately 5% of the world's population, it has more than 25% of the incarcerated population.

missedthecue 4y ago
Lots of places around the world under-incarcerate their criminals, sadly. India has 70 rapes per day, and a conviction rate of just 30%. Sub-Saharan Africa is even worse.
- sph 4y ago
  Is that an attempt to justify the mind boggling incarceration rate in the US?
  - missedthecue 4y ago
    hmm not really. It's more pointing out a good reason for the global disparity. It's a simple statistical thought process... another example is that the US is also heavily overrepresented in the number of LGBT people, because many other countries, particularly high-population countries repress that. If you don't compare all-else being equal, you're going to have other factors playing into the resulting figure.
- Clubber 4y ago
  Just to how much the US is incarcerating, the difference between India's incarcerated the US incarcerated is 1,590,200. Assuming 70 rapes per day with 70% (49 per day) not convicted, it would take 32,453 days (approx 88 years) at 100% conviction rate to match the US's current incarceration rate.
  - missedthecue 4y ago
    Of course, rapes aren't the only crime that goes unpunished in certain parts of the world. Half of my family is from the African country of Liberia. Google tells me their incarceration rate is 1/10th of the US. I don't know what to tell you if you think the crime rate there is 1/10 of the US.
    - Clubber 4y ago
      >I don't know what to tell you if you think the crime rate there is 1/10 of the US. From what I understand it's not so much the amount of crime, but the duration of the punishment that causes the US problem. Most justice-involved people in the U.S. are not accused of serious crimes; more often, they are charged with misdemeanors or non-criminal violations. Yet even low-level offenses, like technical violations of probation and parole, can lead to incarceration and other serious consequences. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html
- jen20 4y ago
  I would be truly amazed if there weren't 70 rapes per day in some individual states, let alone the US at large. I'd also be surprised if there were only 70 per day in India. Where did you find this number?

Lots of places around the world under-incarcerate their criminals, sadly. India has 70 rapes per day, and a conviction rate of just 30%. Sub-Saharan Africa is even worse.

sph 4y ago
Is that an attempt to justify the mind boggling incarceration rate in the US?
- missedthecue 4y ago
  hmm not really. It's more pointing out a good reason for the global disparity. It's a simple statistical thought process... another example is that the US is also heavily overrepresented in the number of LGBT people, because many other countries, particularly high-population countries repress that. If you don't compare all-else being equal, you're going to have other factors playing into the resulting figure.
Clubber 4y ago
Just to how much the US is incarcerating, the difference between India's incarcerated the US incarcerated is 1,590,200. Assuming 70 rapes per day with 70% (49 per day) not convicted, it would take 32,453 days (approx 88 years) at 100% conviction rate to match the US's current incarceration rate.
- missedthecue 4y ago
  Of course, rapes aren't the only crime that goes unpunished in certain parts of the world. Half of my family is from the African country of Liberia. Google tells me their incarceration rate is 1/10th of the US. I don't know what to tell you if you think the crime rate there is 1/10 of the US.
  - Clubber 4y ago
    >I don't know what to tell you if you think the crime rate there is 1/10 of the US. From what I understand it's not so much the amount of crime, but the duration of the punishment that causes the US problem. Most justice-involved people in the U.S. are not accused of serious crimes; more often, they are charged with misdemeanors or non-criminal violations. Yet even low-level offenses, like technical violations of probation and parole, can lead to incarceration and other serious consequences. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html
jen20 4y ago
I would be truly amazed if there weren't 70 rapes per day in some individual states, let alone the US at large. I'd also be surprised if there were only 70 per day in India. Where did you find this number?