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I disagree. It just takes time and practice. Someone can master a subject in 5+ years if they do it everyday. A fullstack dev with 20 years experience can mast

I disagree. It just takes time and practice. Someone can master a subject in 5+ years if they do it everyday. A fullstack dev with 20 years experience can master all those stated and more and I know fullstack devs (granted not many) than can maintain entire apps like this.

CodeSgt 4y ago
I didn't say it was impossible, just very difficult.
- drewcoo 4y ago
  The word was "unrealistic."
- ryanbrunner 4y ago
  A lot of how to interpret this article is from the context you're viewing it in. You, personally, can be a full-stack developer with complex stacks if you're working at it. If you're someone who's building a team, requiring deep knowledge of all tiers is going to make it incredibly hard to hire in terms of both people who have all those skills, and more importantly people who want to use all those skills.
ryanbrunner 4y ago
> Someone can master a subject in 5+ years if they do it everyday. The problem is that all of these are moving targets. You don't master DevOps in 5 years and then you're done forever (same with backend and front-end development), these are constantly changing fields that require continually honing your skills.
acoard 4y ago
Just chiming in this looks basically like my day-job. I'm a fullstack dev who is often our devops/kubernetes lead. I'd say over 50% of my day is around DevOps tasks, but I'm likely to write an API or hone a frontend animation as well. I contribute on all parts of our microservice based kubernetes government application, but do skew to the devops side where the rest of my teams' experience is lighter. I can write iptables or webpack configs, I can implement OAuth or modify bezier curves for animations, and frequently do it all at my job. I have just over 10 years of professional experience but have been programming longer.

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I disagree. It just takes time and practice. Someone can master a subject in 5+ years if they do it everyday. A fullstack dev with 20 years experience can mast

by zepolen 4y ago

CodeSgt 4y ago
I didn't say it was impossible, just very difficult.
- drewcoo 4y ago
  The word was "unrealistic."
- ryanbrunner 4y ago
  A lot of how to interpret this article is from the context you're viewing it in. You, personally, can be a full-stack developer with complex stacks if you're working at it. If you're someone who's building a team, requiring deep knowledge of all tiers is going to make it incredibly hard to hire in terms of both people who have all those skills, and more importantly people who want to use all those skills.
ryanbrunner 4y ago
> Someone can master a subject in 5+ years if they do it everyday. The problem is that all of these are moving targets. You don't master DevOps in 5 years and then you're done forever (same with backend and front-end development), these are constantly changing fields that require continually honing your skills.
acoard 4y ago
Just chiming in this looks basically like my day-job. I'm a fullstack dev who is often our devops/kubernetes lead. I'd say over 50% of my day is around DevOps tasks, but I'm likely to write an API or hone a frontend animation as well. I contribute on all parts of our microservice based kubernetes government application, but do skew to the devops side where the rest of my teams' experience is lighter. I can write iptables or webpack configs, I can implement OAuth or modify bezier curves for animations, and frequently do it all at my job. I have just over 10 years of professional experience but have been programming longer.