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Is there any alternative to this? Because that's about 4 times the price of the normal monthly local bus pass in the US and the UK. Most people don't need to tr

by pera 4y ago

Is there any alternative to this? Because that's about 4 times the price of the normal monthly local bus pass in the US and the UK. Most people don't need to travel around the country, they just need to commute to their jobs.

CaptainZapp 4y ago
Yes, there are. Mostly, but not necessarily, within regional transportation networks. As a for example: I pay roughly $1200 for one year of travel within the city of Zurich and the adjacent zone including the airport. This includes any mode of transportation, except taxis. A Generalabonnement makes more sense, though, commuting from, say, Zurich to Basel, which is not uncommon. Edited to add: Regional commuter passes also allow for use of intercity trains, provided that they stop within your zone of validity.
- pera 4y ago
  ah cool that sounds very reasonable then
- snovv_crash 4y ago
  If you just want Zürich city it is less, about $850/year
  - CaptainZapp 4y ago
    That sounds about right.
soco 4y ago
Apparently half a million Swiss did the math and decided 4 times that local bus pass price is worth their money. It's not like you have to get a GA. I don't and I'm happy with the half-fare abo, my daughter has a local pass and a half-fare abo (which doesn't help to the local pass reductions), but if you go in the mountains or skiing enough weekends (and many do) you will save lots with the GA - as the mountains are often not in your local bus network.
ornornor 4y ago
1/2 fare card is about 170$ a year and gives you 50% off every train ticket. There are yearly abos for specific routes (home to office, typically) that you can choose for 1/2/3/4/5 days a week. But the price usually gets close enough to a full GA that most people in this situation opt for a GA. And many employers cover the 1/2 fare card or GA for their employees. SBB also (used to?) has a plan where you get a yearly GA and a Tesla or eGolf in every major train station you arrive. It feels magical: get on any train any time and when you arrive there is a car waiting for you. Use it, get back on the train, and there is another car at your destination for you to drive. It isn’t cheap but it’s a pretty neat concept.
prmoustache 4y ago
Yes you can only have the smaller passes. But taking the GA is really convenient. You just enter every public transport without thinking about buying a ticket. I had a general abo for years and decided against renewing it when I moved to a job 3min of biking distance from home, I missed it dearly despite owning a car. You are drunk after a late night. Some sort of public transport will bring you home. You want to do some hiking today? You just go to the nearest train station and decide at the last minute. You want to go to that music festival/concert on the other side of the country? Take the train, have a nap, chitchat or share a meal with your friend for a few hours without the stress of traffic, looking or paying for parking a car at your destination. Train is great, it allows you to move from A to B while basically being at the pub. You might not need to access your whole country but once you realize you can you use that opportunity and realize your country is much deeper and more interesting than you thought it was.
- lasftew 4y ago
  That's all correct. In addition, you can get almost the same convencience without purchasing an expensive GA by using the EasyRide feature [1]. No more worrying about buying and choosing the right ticket. [1] https://www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyride.html https://www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyr...
  - lmc 4y ago
    Amazing! Everywhere needs this

by pera 4y ago

CaptainZapp 4y ago

Yes, there are. Mostly, but not necessarily, within regional transportation networks. As a for example: I pay roughly $1200 for one year of travel within the city of Zurich and the adjacent zone including the airport. This includes any mode of transportation, except taxis. A Generalabonnement makes more sense, though, commuting from, say, Zurich to Basel, which is not uncommon. Edited to add: Regional commuter passes also allow for use of intercity trains, provided that they stop within your zone of validity.

pera 4y ago
ah cool that sounds very reasonable then
snovv_crash 4y ago
If you just want Zürich city it is less, about $850/year
- CaptainZapp 4y ago
  That sounds about right.

soco 4y ago

Apparently half a million Swiss did the math and decided 4 times that local bus pass price is worth their money. It's not like you have to get a GA. I don't and I'm happy with the half-fare abo, my daughter has a local pass and a half-fare abo (which doesn't help to the local pass reductions), but if you go in the mountains or skiing enough weekends (and many do) you will save lots with the GA - as the mountains are often not in your local bus network.

ornornor 4y ago

1/2 fare card is about 170$ a year and gives you 50% off every train ticket. There are yearly abos for specific routes (home to office, typically) that you can choose for 1/2/3/4/5 days a week. But the price usually gets close enough to a full GA that most people in this situation opt for a GA. And many employers cover the 1/2 fare card or GA for their employees. SBB also (used to?) has a plan where you get a yearly GA and a Tesla or eGolf in every major train station you arrive. It feels magical: get on any train any time and when you arrive there is a car waiting for you. Use it, get back on the train, and there is another car at your destination for you to drive. It isn’t cheap but it’s a pretty neat concept.

prmoustache 4y ago

Yes you can only have the smaller passes. But taking the GA is really convenient. You just enter every public transport without thinking about buying a ticket. I had a general abo for years and decided against renewing it when I moved to a job 3min of biking distance from home, I missed it dearly despite owning a car. You are drunk after a late night. Some sort of public transport will bring you home. You want to do some hiking today? You just go to the nearest train station and decide at the last minute. You want to go to that music festival/concert on the other side of the country? Take the train, have a nap, chitchat or share a meal with your friend for a few hours without the stress of traffic, looking or paying for parking a car at your destination. Train is great, it allows you to move from A to B while basically being at the pub. You might not need to access your whole country but once you realize you can you use that opportunity and realize your country is much deeper and more interesting than you thought it was.

lasftew 4y ago
That's all correct. In addition, you can get almost the same convencience without purchasing an expensive GA by using the EasyRide feature [1]. No more worrying about buying and choosing the right ticket. [1] https://www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyride.html https://www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyr...
- lmc 4y ago
  Amazing! Everywhere needs this