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what about reddit?

Gigachad 4y ago
It apparently went much deeper than just porn. Tumbler had a big pedo problem that they were struggling to deal with which is why Apple delisted them. So they decided that rather than try to filter legal from illegal porn, they would just ban it all.
- Macha 4y ago
  There was a NY Times article about the problem Reddit had with r/jailbait, but Apple did not move against the Reddit app then. You can argue that they were wrong to move against Tumblr, or to not move against Reddit, but I don't think you can argue that the application of this rule is not variable.
  - shagie 4y ago
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/opioid-reddit.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iaha3DKDmwaiPkORI-Y-kDMae95atc_3ijdRMNENPVnYs1O-dJlHh4nTRi08NzDkY4ZIi4xpMXuAG89hM7BUfVpqDO6KzS0c7k6zeeytVfbYWntXaHeg3ErJwp1sNAyIwHRrH8MwqnFE-B02cAvnqtyQ8AnGkpTIXWCrPLqCB5hOdqZbRi66gg-X-5RWDG7jsfLovtbM10UUQSaOSs5tWUs69pcO8cVOrL_LnMjccn5hrYTAg94PZbEdXZJ_PSwyc3f3CjYuuE&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/opioid-reddit.html?unl... > A group called “jailbait” — it contained provocative images of teenagers — led to a ban of “suggestive or sexual content featuring minors” in 2011. The company also shut down a group called “beatingwomen,” which glorified violence against women. Last year Reddit banned two so-called alt-right subreddits for repeatedly posting personal information that could lead to harassment. It took no action, though, against a subreddit organized around gun sales, which drew scrutiny after a 2014 Mother Jones article suggested that some arms dealers sought to exploit a federal background check loophole. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/19/reddit-and-the-struggle-to-detoxify-the-internet https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/19/reddit-and-the... also goes into it. > In September of 2011, Anderson Cooper discussed the subreddit on CNN. “It’s pretty amazing that a big corporation would have something like this, which reflects badly on it,” he said. Traffic to Jailbait quadrupled overnight. Twelve days later, after someone in the group apparently shared a nude photo of a fourteen-year-old girl, the community was banned. --- The Apple / Tumblr issue is much more recent (did Reddit even have an App Store app in 2011 - the version history doesn't go back that far).
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      I remember that reddit had no official app for quite a long time, it was from memory only about 6 years ago that they purchased one of the community built apps to use as the official one.

what about reddit?

It apparently went much deeper than just porn. Tumbler had a big pedo problem that they were struggling to deal with which is why Apple delisted them. So they decided that rather than try to filter legal from illegal porn, they would just ban it all.

Macha 4y ago
There was a NY Times article about the problem Reddit had with r/jailbait, but Apple did not move against the Reddit app then. You can argue that they were wrong to move against Tumblr, or to not move against Reddit, but I don't think you can argue that the application of this rule is not variable.
- shagie 4y ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/opioid-reddit.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iaha3DKDmwaiPkORI-Y-kDMae95atc_3ijdRMNENPVnYs1O-dJlHh4nTRi08NzDkY4ZIi4xpMXuAG89hM7BUfVpqDO6KzS0c7k6zeeytVfbYWntXaHeg3ErJwp1sNAyIwHRrH8MwqnFE-B02cAvnqtyQ8AnGkpTIXWCrPLqCB5hOdqZbRi66gg-X-5RWDG7jsfLovtbM10UUQSaOSs5tWUs69pcO8cVOrL_LnMjccn5hrYTAg94PZbEdXZJ_PSwyc3f3CjYuuE&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/opioid-reddit.html?unl... > A group called “jailbait” — it contained provocative images of teenagers — led to a ban of “suggestive or sexual content featuring minors” in 2011. The company also shut down a group called “beatingwomen,” which glorified violence against women. Last year Reddit banned two so-called alt-right subreddits for repeatedly posting personal information that could lead to harassment. It took no action, though, against a subreddit organized around gun sales, which drew scrutiny after a 2014 Mother Jones article suggested that some arms dealers sought to exploit a federal background check loophole. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/19/reddit-and-the-struggle-to-detoxify-the-internet https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/19/reddit-and-the... also goes into it. > In September of 2011, Anderson Cooper discussed the subreddit on CNN. “It’s pretty amazing that a big corporation would have something like this, which reflects badly on it,” he said. Traffic to Jailbait quadrupled overnight. Twelve days later, after someone in the group apparently shared a nude photo of a fourteen-year-old girl, the community was banned. --- The Apple / Tumblr issue is much more recent (did Reddit even have an App Store app in 2011 - the version history doesn't go back that far).
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    I remember that reddit had no official app for quite a long time, it was from memory only about 6 years ago that they purchased one of the community built apps to use as the official one.