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> Do you know who we should thank for all businesses killing their own online presence and migrating to Facebook? I'll give you 4 letters to guess: G.D.P.R Bus

> Do you know who we should thank for all businesses killing their own online presence and migrating to Facebook? I'll give you 4 letters to guess: G.D.P.R Business started killing their own presence before GDPR. If GDPR did contribute to this, I doubt it, the only reason I could think of would be businesses not understanding GDPR. In your opinion what, specifically, about GDPR drove businesses to facebook?

rglullis 4y ago
> only reason I could think of would be businesses not understanding GDPR. Yes, that was reason enough. They were scared of lawyers knocking on their doors and shake them with the threat of lawsuits over "GDPR violations". They had zero interest in spending more money on their websites to ensure they are compliant and Facebook made it convenient for them to outsource all of this unnecessary headache. I don't want to get into a tangent, but I'm yet to see a better example of how regulatory capture works in favor of Big Corporations, and how I distressingly frustrating it is to see how often people throw around the "Government needs to regulate X" without thinking about the Law of Unintended Consequences.
- Kbelicius 4y ago
  > Yes, that was reason enough. They were scared of lawyers knocking on their doors and shake them with the threat of lawsuits over "GDPR violations". They had zero interest in spending more money on their websites to ensure they are compliant and Facebook made it convenient for them to outsource all of this unnecessary headache. So it isn't the fault of GDPR but of stupid business owners? That is according to you. You can't think of any other reason why businesses would kill their own online presence? > I don't want to get into a tangent, but I'm yet to see a better example of how regulatory capture works in favor of Big Corporations What, specifically, about GDPR favors big corporations? Considering that it is the best example that you can thing of I'm sure that won't be hard to answer.
  - rglullis 4y ago
    There is nothing stupid about the behavior of business owners. When facing a bunch of uncertainty with something that is not critical to their business, the most natural reaction is to simply step away from it and outsource it. Blaming business owners for being scared from the lack of clarity of the law is ridiculous. > What, specifically, about GDPR favors big corporations? If regulations were truly harmful to Facebook in any way, why would Zuckerberg be calling for it? Big corporations have armies of lawyers and can deal with all the requirements from complex pieces of legislation. They use that as a barrier against smaller sites who might try to compete with them on specific niches and use it as a protection racket against their own consumers. Thanks to GDPR, Facebook can go around the internet saying "Nice community site you have there, would be a pity if the government did anything to it..."
    - Kbelicius 4y ago
      > There is nothing stupid about the behavior of business owners. When facing a bunch of uncertainty with something that is not critical to their business, the most natural reaction is to simply step away from it and outsource it. If it is not critical to their business then there is nothing to worry about. Even if a business breaks GDPR they don't automatically get a fine but a warning and instructions on how to comply with it. Following that we can only conclude that destroying their online presence because of GDPR is a stupid move. While there is some uncertainty non of it really touches companies whose main business isn't collecting PII. > Big corporations have armies of lawyers and can handle with all the requirements. They use that as a barrier against smaller sites who might try to compete with them on specific niches and use it as a protection racket against their own consumers. Thanks to GDPR, Facebook can go around the internet saying "Nice community site you have there, would be a pity if the government did anything to it..." Can you explain how this scenario is in any way beneficial to big corps? I mean, you are saying that big corps need to hire an army of lawyers, spend resources on catching their competitors breaking the law and then informing them of it so that they could fix the issues. Nothing you wrote here makes sense. You did not write anything specific about GDPR that favors big corporations. Do you know anything about GDPR so that you can answer that simple question or are you just some libertarian/ancap who rages against regulation without actually knowing anything about it?

rglullis 4y ago

> only reason I could think of would be businesses not understanding GDPR. Yes, that was reason enough. They were scared of lawyers knocking on their doors and shake them with the threat of lawsuits over "GDPR violations". They had zero interest in spending more money on their websites to ensure they are compliant and Facebook made it convenient for them to outsource all of this unnecessary headache. I don't want to get into a tangent, but I'm yet to see a better example of how regulatory capture works in favor of Big Corporations, and how I distressingly frustrating it is to see how often people throw around the "Government needs to regulate X" without thinking about the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Kbelicius 4y ago
> Yes, that was reason enough. They were scared of lawyers knocking on their doors and shake them with the threat of lawsuits over "GDPR violations". They had zero interest in spending more money on their websites to ensure they are compliant and Facebook made it convenient for them to outsource all of this unnecessary headache. So it isn't the fault of GDPR but of stupid business owners? That is according to you. You can't think of any other reason why businesses would kill their own online presence? > I don't want to get into a tangent, but I'm yet to see a better example of how regulatory capture works in favor of Big Corporations What, specifically, about GDPR favors big corporations? Considering that it is the best example that you can thing of I'm sure that won't be hard to answer.
- rglullis 4y ago
  There is nothing stupid about the behavior of business owners. When facing a bunch of uncertainty with something that is not critical to their business, the most natural reaction is to simply step away from it and outsource it. Blaming business owners for being scared from the lack of clarity of the law is ridiculous. > What, specifically, about GDPR favors big corporations? If regulations were truly harmful to Facebook in any way, why would Zuckerberg be calling for it? Big corporations have armies of lawyers and can deal with all the requirements from complex pieces of legislation. They use that as a barrier against smaller sites who might try to compete with them on specific niches and use it as a protection racket against their own consumers. Thanks to GDPR, Facebook can go around the internet saying "Nice community site you have there, would be a pity if the government did anything to it..."
  - Kbelicius 4y ago
    > There is nothing stupid about the behavior of business owners. When facing a bunch of uncertainty with something that is not critical to their business, the most natural reaction is to simply step away from it and outsource it. If it is not critical to their business then there is nothing to worry about. Even if a business breaks GDPR they don't automatically get a fine but a warning and instructions on how to comply with it. Following that we can only conclude that destroying their online presence because of GDPR is a stupid move. While there is some uncertainty non of it really touches companies whose main business isn't collecting PII. > Big corporations have armies of lawyers and can handle with all the requirements. They use that as a barrier against smaller sites who might try to compete with them on specific niches and use it as a protection racket against their own consumers. Thanks to GDPR, Facebook can go around the internet saying "Nice community site you have there, would be a pity if the government did anything to it..." Can you explain how this scenario is in any way beneficial to big corps? I mean, you are saying that big corps need to hire an army of lawyers, spend resources on catching their competitors breaking the law and then informing them of it so that they could fix the issues. Nothing you wrote here makes sense. You did not write anything specific about GDPR that favors big corporations. Do you know anything about GDPR so that you can answer that simple question or are you just some libertarian/ancap who rages against regulation without actually knowing anything about it?