e2ee in whatsapp is a joke. e2ee with close source clients, closed protocol, backup functions, sorry... that's not real e2ee, that's a marketing ploy. signal d

e2ee in whatsapp is a joke. e2ee with close source clients, closed protocol, backup functions, sorry... that's not real e2ee, that's a marketing ploy. signal does marginally better. real e2ee is possible with XMPP and Omemo iirc. but as others have pointed out that's not UXy enough to compete with Telegram for the mainsteam.