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Refusing to hire people for choosing to work in an industry you consider immoral is fine. Many companies do so already only the industries they discriminate aga

by HWR_14 4y ago

Refusing to hire people for choosing to work in an industry you consider immoral is fine. Many companies do so already only the industries they discriminate against are subclasses of pharmaceutical retail sales or aggressive asset acquisition. If you think crypto is a massive scam and immoral, why would you want to hire people from there?

smt88 4y ago
The same is true of people who have worked for PornHub or Enron. There were some incredibly talented people there, but most companies don't want to work with them (rightly or wrongly).
- HWR_14 4y ago
  Many divisions of Enron had a toxic culture that makes Amazon's force ranking look like a team building exercise. Anyone who thrives on one of those divisions would not want to be someone I worked with, regardless of talent.
- mtnGoat 4y ago
  as someone who worked in the adult industry i can attest that some are unwilling to hire after looking at my work history(two in twenty years, both were extremely christian oriented companies), BUT many are excited about it, due to having experience with scale and technologies that cant be had at many companies outside of F500. streaming, ad serving, video encoding, etc.
mtnGoat 4y ago
Just because a business has practices you do not agree with, does not mean the people working there are all bad. I'm not sure why that is hard to understand. A lot of folks around here hate on Amazon, but would happily hire Devs that worked there, in fact many will pay a premium to do so. Oo when its amazon abusing employees, thats ok, and we rush to hire their ex-employees, but if the employer was in crypto thats not OK and we ostracize these workers? seems pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
- smt88 4y ago
  > seems pretty hypocritical if you ask me. That's going to be true of everyone else's morality. Even your own is not 100% consistent. You can't let perfect be the enemy of good. The difference between crypto and Amazon (as I said elsewhere) is that Amazon has ostensibly a good product: they sell people things. Their business is abusive of workers, but most people don't really know that. "We" (the people on HN) know about it because we're very-online people, but it's not common knowledge. So I'm willing to believe that someone is well-intentioned, takes a job at Amazon without knowing how abusive they are, and has good values in the end. I believe that many crypto employees are good, moral people, but they don't really understand how the industry works. That's fine -- I don't want to hire them because they don't understand the space, which tells me they aren't very smart. I'm hiring very few people, and I want to hire ones that understand systems very well (if I can!), including social and financial systems. The people who know it's a Ponzi scheme and still work there are the ones I would call immoral and refuse to hire on moral grounds.

by HWR_14 4y ago

smt88 4y ago

The same is true of people who have worked for PornHub or Enron. There were some incredibly talented people there, but most companies don't want to work with them (rightly or wrongly).

HWR_14 4y ago
Many divisions of Enron had a toxic culture that makes Amazon's force ranking look like a team building exercise. Anyone who thrives on one of those divisions would not want to be someone I worked with, regardless of talent.
mtnGoat 4y ago
as someone who worked in the adult industry i can attest that some are unwilling to hire after looking at my work history(two in twenty years, both were extremely christian oriented companies), BUT many are excited about it, due to having experience with scale and technologies that cant be had at many companies outside of F500. streaming, ad serving, video encoding, etc.

mtnGoat 4y ago

Just because a business has practices you do not agree with, does not mean the people working there are all bad. I'm not sure why that is hard to understand. A lot of folks around here hate on Amazon, but would happily hire Devs that worked there, in fact many will pay a premium to do so. Oo when its amazon abusing employees, thats ok, and we rush to hire their ex-employees, but if the employer was in crypto thats not OK and we ostracize these workers? seems pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

smt88 4y ago
> seems pretty hypocritical if you ask me. That's going to be true of everyone else's morality. Even your own is not 100% consistent. You can't let perfect be the enemy of good. The difference between crypto and Amazon (as I said elsewhere) is that Amazon has ostensibly a good product: they sell people things. Their business is abusive of workers, but most people don't really know that. "We" (the people on HN) know about it because we're very-online people, but it's not common knowledge. So I'm willing to believe that someone is well-intentioned, takes a job at Amazon without knowing how abusive they are, and has good values in the end. I believe that many crypto employees are good, moral people, but they don't really understand how the industry works. That's fine -- I don't want to hire them because they don't understand the space, which tells me they aren't very smart. I'm hiring very few people, and I want to hire ones that understand systems very well (if I can!), including social and financial systems. The people who know it's a Ponzi scheme and still work there are the ones I would call immoral and refuse to hire on moral grounds.