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I really enjoyed the few minutes I spent with it, and I've got it bookmarked for the next time I want to visualize a large number of tasks and requirements! Yo
by gertlex 4y ago
I really enjoyed the few minutes I spent with it, and I've got it bookmarked for the next time I want to visualize a large number of tasks and requirements! Your described use case of "project tasks dependencies" particularly struck a note in my head.
Anecdote: part of the initial hook in playing with knotend (i.e. fun) was trying to infer the key mappings. I didn't end up checking out the demo.
Regarding the larger picture of "diagrams for stuff", my own take is that it's a realm that one tool can't cover all use-cases. As an exercise, I started listing some of the broad use-cases and my go-to tools for them...
- simple (simplistic often) for presentations - where refined tweaking is key (Lucid chart, previously Inkscape)
- large, autogenerated - "I'll trace the flow, it just needs to be sane" (graphviz)
- structured customized, small/medium flow charts (yed/plantULM in the past, next time probably mermaid)
- gantt charts or other task dependency trees... these are like the "project task dependencies" you wrote of, but with a time aspect added in... (I don't make these much...) It seems like tools are likely to do gantt or flow charts well, but not both.
- nested text lists (not really a flow chart, but a common way of organizing my thoughts)
- flat lists (not really a flow chart), how I often dump large lists of todo tasks for projects. (I like using google sheets for this; I just wish I could drag and drop rows)
Having bumbled my way through listing all of that: I was going to ask if you think knotend is still on the path to being a general-purpose flow-chart editor... but then realized you specifically talk about "graph editor", and I have not formed opinions on that topic. So I don't have a question here really ;)
- escot 4y agoI agree there's no one tool for all possible diagramming cases. Knotend actually isn't geared towards making highly pretty graphs since it uses autolayout. It's specifically for fast editing of a structured graph. For example there's no way to have a dangling edge to nowhere. I personally like this because it was the main pain point I felt with miro, lucid, etc. and I want to continue down the path of what we can do if we have a super fast editing experience for structured directed graphs (eg, could you export this to another tool that consumes it and does some computation).