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Now imagine the level of sophistication propagandists have reached Very little reason to believe they aren't, for the most part, as bunglingly ineffectual as t

by pvg 4y ago

Now imagine the level of sophistication propagandists have reached Very little reason to believe they aren't, for the most part, as bunglingly ineffectual as they were then, especially when it comes to efforts tied to intelligence services or people trying to sell a service, like CA.

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sofixa 4y ago
> Very little reason to believe they aren't, for the most part, as bunglingly ineffectual as they were then Really? I thought there was plenty of reason. There has been lots of reporting on Russian troll farms and concentrated Russian efforts for Brexit, Donald Trump. There was also quite good reporting against the propaganda war in the Central African Republic between the French and Russian armies/intelligence services.
- pvg 4y ago
  The existence of these efforts doesn't say much about their effectiveness, which is marginal at best. Notice how the 'successes' are always in perfect conditions. Decades of Soviet propaganda did next to nothing, yet suddenly, Russian propaganda is the most effective thing imaginable. Or a US-government-sponsored letter writing campaign by the better-off Italian Americans to their Italian relatives is credited with helping influence an election in struggling post-war Italy. There's a huge selection bias for the times there's even a hint of any kind of effect.
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