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I genuinely question if consciousness is just an illusion if everything is just cause and effect. Similar, awareness is just a word used for human expression fr

I genuinely question if consciousness is just an illusion if everything is just cause and effect. Similar, awareness is just a word used for human expression from one human to another for claiming we’re not just navigating a script like a computer but are we really aware or conscious if everything is just cause and effect? I assume AI will be good enough as humans before we understand the human brain in comparison to AI and understanding to me is the meaningful distinction. I do think we should care that all entities never suffer regardless if they don’t have the human label. We should consider that all energy in the universe not suffering is the best universe.

jotm 4y ago
> we’re not just navigating a script like a computer We just don't see the script. One of the primal driving forces behind creating AI is to have slaves with high intelligence doing work no one else would 24+/7+. I assume you'd be against using animal labour as they would be suffering. But would you say the same about tractors? Going by the logic in that comment, we should nuke ourselves and try to blow up the Sun for good measure to reduce suffering.
- iosystem 4y ago
  > We just don't see the script. True. > One of the primal driving forces behind creating AI is to have slaves with high intelligence doing work no one else would 24+/7+. True > I assume you'd be against using animal labour as they would be suffering. Animals doing labour while suffering != animals doing labour while not suffering. > But would you say the same about tractors? Going by the logic in that comment, we should nuke ourselves and try to blow up the Sun for good measure to reduce suffering. I think you should read again what I wrote and consider if you're being illogical towards what I wrote. The all or nothing thought of yours, isn't a gotcha (if perfectionism isn't obtainable) and it doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge the best universe while striving towards one of the least total suffering possible for us while being able to enjoy life.

jotm 4y ago

> we’re not just navigating a script like a computer We just don't see the script. One of the primal driving forces behind creating AI is to have slaves with high intelligence doing work no one else would 24+/7+. I assume you'd be against using animal labour as they would be suffering. But would you say the same about tractors? Going by the logic in that comment, we should nuke ourselves and try to blow up the Sun for good measure to reduce suffering.

iosystem 4y ago
> We just don't see the script. True. > One of the primal driving forces behind creating AI is to have slaves with high intelligence doing work no one else would 24+/7+. True > I assume you'd be against using animal labour as they would be suffering. Animals doing labour while suffering != animals doing labour while not suffering. > But would you say the same about tractors? Going by the logic in that comment, we should nuke ourselves and try to blow up the Sun for good measure to reduce suffering. I think you should read again what I wrote and consider if you're being illogical towards what I wrote. The all or nothing thought of yours, isn't a gotcha (if perfectionism isn't obtainable) and it doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge the best universe while striving towards one of the least total suffering possible for us while being able to enjoy life.