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700,000,000 users disagree with your statements. You can’t make something true by just saying it’s true. Also your attitude is super toxic. You’re calling peop
by scrollaway 4y ago
700,000,000 users disagree with your statements. You can’t make something true by just saying it’s true.
Also your attitude is super toxic. You’re calling people who don’t value the same things you do, “clueless”.
You don’t really get to bullshit people on HN — you can be super smart and skilled in your field, you’ll far too often come across people with vastly more experience than you. I invite you to think about that.
Again, matrix is great, and I see it as the future of messaging. But it’s absolutely not the “present” of messaging; it’s years behind telegram, and the UX of most clients including the more popular ones is garbage.
- fartcannon 4y agoIts not years behind. That's a lie. In fact Id say it's ahead because you don't need to use a phone number (huge liability), you can choose to use e2e if you want and theyre not storing your data in plaintext! Oh and all of matrix is totally open source! Wow. That's how you know you can trust it. If they decide to pull a WhatsApp and move to Facebook, you can just fork and get on with your life. I like that the telegram client is open, but the sever isn't. Which means I don't really trust them. Same problem as Signal.
- jonathantf2 4y agoJust because it's open source doesn't mean I can trust it, I don't have the time to audit the code myself. Being open source is not a feature.
- fartcannon 4y agoYes it is, because you can. Just because you personally wont doesn't remove it as a feature.
- t0bia_s 4y agoMabye you wont, but someone else do it. It would be pointless to open code with unwanted tricks behind.
- t0bia_s 4y agoA lot of users of Telegram are those who lost WhatsApp for few hours and was looking for alternative btw... I'm not sure about values honestly.