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You can use you phone's camera as a webcam with Reincubate's Camo App. This required a wired connection iirc. You can also use OBS Studio along with a virtual
by navanchauhan 4y ago
You can use you phone's camera as a webcam with Reincubate's Camo App. This required a wired connection iirc.
You can also use OBS Studio along with a virtual camera plugin to use any device which can output directly to your computer.
But most of these solutions do not work on Safari or FaceTime unless you manually modify the app.
Now, Apple is going to soon introduce their "It Just Works" solution with the next release of macOS and iOS. You will be able to use your iPhone's camera as a webcam wirelessly with your Mac by just sticking your phone on the back (Apple is partnering with Belkin[0] for this stand) [1]
I personally don't care about the camera as much as I care about the sound quality.
[0] https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/6/23156834/apple-iphone-webcam-mac-continuity-camera-macos-wwdc https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/6/23156834/apple-iphone-webc...
[1] https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10018/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10018/
- feet 4y agoGreat, because I never want to use my phone while in a meeting What the actual fuck are they thinking just use a decent cam in the laptop But yea, mic audio is always trash too
- ketzo 4y ago> just use a decent cam in the laptop I mean, phone cameras will literally always be better than laptop cameras. They're just a lot bigger. Edit: I should clarify this a little. From my understanding, camera quality is pretty overwhelmingly limited by lens quality. Better lenses require a thicker / deeper camera housing, which is hard to stuff into the top lid of a laptop. Phones are "always" (although that might not be true forever!) going to have more space for bigger and better lenses.
- OJFord 4y agoWhy does that mean 'always'? i.e. rephrase GP you quoted: 'just use a lot bigger of a cam in the laptop'.
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- davidmurdoch 4y agoWhat a curious take. They just need to put bigger cameras in the laptop. There is like 100x more space for such things.
- gbanfalvi 4y agoNot depthwise.
- davidmurdoch 4y agoNeither are phones with great cameras... Which is why there are camera bumps.
- feet 4y agoA camera bump could easily be added and with a redesign of the palm rest/touch pad area there could be a recess or slight curve down to fit, you're absolutely right
- fwoty 4y agoNobody is buying a laptop with a bump at the top of the lid
- davidmurdoch 4y agoYet
- dewey 4y agoLaptop "lids" are a lot thinner than your average phone, they might be able to use a plateau like at the back of the phones to house it but I'd guess if there would be a simple solution that they could "just" do it would've happened already.
- feet 4y agoOkay? So change it? Are the gods of thin devices stopping engineers from doing something different?
- prmoustache 4y ago> I mean, phone cameras will literally always be better than laptop cameras. They're just a lot bigger. Sony RX0. The things with webcam is nobody want to spend any substantial amount of money on a third party usb webcam and nobody is willing to pay his laptop 10 or 20% more because it has a quality camera inside.
- nawgz 4y agoBetter to use the browser anyways, your eyes don’t divert from the screen this way. Much more subtle
- nojito 4y ago>What the actual fuck are they thinking just use a decent cam in the laptop It will actually almost double the weight of the overall laptop if they added the same camera as they do on iPhone.
- feet 4y ago
- Jcowell 4y agoI think he means in order to fit a camera you need to increase the thickness of the laptops lid. Whether or not this leads to double the weight , idk but there is definitely a weight increase to fit the camera.
- feet 4y agoIf they did mean it that way it still doesn't make sense to me. Where is the extra mass coming from? Are they just thickening the whole lid and fill it with solid lead? Mass comes from matter, if there isn't matter than there isn't mass. Adding a tiny camera, even if they did have to increase thickness a tiny bit of the entire lid it still wouldn't even come close to doubling the mass of the whole thing on an aluminum body laptop
- nojito 4y agoIt's simple math. To hold the camera housing of an iPhone camera the thickness has to go up which means the entire top lid needs to become thicker. This will easily double the weight of the laptop.
- blacksmith_tb 4y agoOnly if that means using twice as much metal - I would expect instead it'd mean adding a thin strip of metal around the circumference of the lid. That would add a few grams, I'm sure, but hardly doubling.
- dangus 4y agoThe 1080p laptop webcam that's in Apple's latest models is quite a decent camera that benefits from the ISP in Apple silicon. Even the ancient 720p camera hooked up to that ISP managed an incredible amount of improvement over the Intel models. I'd also venture a guess that many other laptops' built-in webcams can outperform some of these dedicated units, not just the ones that are Apple's iPhone R&D beneficiaries. "Mic audio is always trash" – again, try a newer Mac notebook model. Apple has been investing serious R&D into laptop microphones, and I think competitors are taking notice and making their own improvements. It might sound crazy to buy a second phone for this kind of thing, but I do think there are people who will get a better value out of actually just buying a second iPhone as a webcam/streaming camera compared to buying a dedicated professional camera. Unlike a mirrorless/DLSR camera, you can also acquire smartphones with deep carrier discounts and long, zero interest financing. So, presumably, you could buy yourself a new phone, and instead of trading in your old one you could use that as a streaming webcam. Don't forget that iPhones aren't just $1000 luxury phones, Apple's cheapest new model is $429 and will stomp all over any dedicated webcam on this list. If you jump on the used market you can buy something like an iPhone 11 or XR for under $300 or $200 and still have a really solid webcam (as a bonus, you don't have to care about the condition of the battery).
- jsdwarf 4y agoInternal cams in laptops are considered commodities by the laptop manufacturers: they need to put any HD webcam in their product or no customer will buy it, but nobody picks a laptop model just because it has an excellent webcam.
- interactivecode 4y agowho would they know, no manufacturer recently actually released something with an excellent webcam
- googlryas 4y agoWhy does this make you so angry? Laptops rarely have decent cams, because phones are afforded a greater thickness than the typical location of a laptop camera(above the screen). The webcam in my macbook has about 1/8" to work with, whereas my phone camera has almost 1/3"
- Shorel 4y agoExternal cameras like the Logitech 920 tested in the article have more than enough thickness to have better optics and better electronics than the cameras in phones. They just don't.
- Forgeties79 4y ago>they just don’t Maybe this is out of ignorance, but just sort of assumed that’s how they keep it so cheap. Also the cameras on phones are arguably why people buy the phones they do at this point, or at the very least it’s a huge consideration given how frequently we use them. They also aren’t just for selfies and FaceTime or what have you, they’re also meant to be photography tools. They’ve completely replaced small consumer point and shoots. A laptop camera/webcam isn’t and can’t be that.
- galad87 4y agoApple introduced a new API in macOS 12.3 to create Core Media IO plug-ins that run out-of-process, this kind of new plug-in works in Safari and FaceTime too (Camo already uses the new API).
- Forgeties79 4y agoHell with zoom you don’t need OBS. Get a cheap $20 capture card and an HDMI cable, you’re all set.
- conradfr 4y agoDroidCamX (for Android, obviously) uses Wifi or USB.
- Pxtl 4y agoI've been using IP Webcam. Wrote a blogpost for my co-workers on how to set it up when we all suddenly went wfh and webcams were sold out everywhere. http://www.pxtl.ca/2020/04/08/ip-webcam/ http://www.pxtl.ca/2020/04/08/ip-webcam/
- ChildOfChaos 4y agoCamo now works with Safari and facetime since an update last month
- system2 4y agoSound is easy. Slap a nice Yeti microphone and 2 sound blocking foams on the walls, you are good to go.
- dmix 4y agoWhat do you gain with the sound blocking foam? Better acoustics?
- nine_k 4y agoNo echos that give the tinny tone to the sound. An open bookshelf with varied unaligned books looks better behind you than acoustic foam, an still suppresses echo well enough.
- swyx 4y agohttps://dontbuyayeti.com/ https://dontbuyayeti.com/ empathizing with this recently
- system2 4y agoHaha this page is very opinioned.