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Lets hope the open core project, namely the Open Core Legacy Patcher[1] will revive some older models to run Ventura. Personally, I'm running a 2014/15 Macbook

Lets hope the open core project, namely the Open Core Legacy Patcher[1] will revive some older models to run Ventura. Personally, I'm running a 2014/15 Macbook Air 11" for 7 years now[2] and with "Open Core Legacy" on Monterrey with no issues at all. [1] https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.ht... [2] Except the mainboard, display and shell everything else thats modular (wifi card, ssd, battery and keyboard) was replaced/repaired at some point.

Synaesthesia 4y ago
In pretty confident it will, the OCLP project has improved a lot and is now very capable and stable. My MacBook Pro 2012 runs Monterey, and it's really fast and stable. Better than any previous Mac OS in fact. You can look on the Macrumors forum and Reddit to see if they're already getting the betas to work. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-13-ventura-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-13-ventura-on-uns... https://www.reddit.com/r/venturapatcher/ https://www.reddit.com/r/venturapatcher/ Edit: the OCLP team released an official statement, looks like they're having quite a few challenges. https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/998 https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/9...
- alexd111 4y ago
  Interesting that you say that it's faster and more stable. My 2013 Air is on Monterey and it's "good enough" for my needs still, but slipping towards not quite good enough. Very tempted to give OCLP a try if it extends the life of the machine a bit more.
ksec 4y ago
May be off topic but this had me thinking. Will Safari 16 be available on older macOS? Assuming Apple doesn't break their tradition it should support two prior OS release, Monterey and Big Sur. While I could do without an OS update on my MacBook Pro 2015. ( I cant record a single useful feature from all the previous OS update other than Universal Clipboard ) That means for MacBook Pro 2015 Model users they will only have two more Safari Update.
- alwillis 4y ago
  Will Safari 16 be available on older macOS? Short answer: you'll get all of new web platform features (Container Queries, Subgrid, etc.); you may not get certain Safari-specific features that require a feature only present in macOS Ventura. You can get Safari Technology Preview for Monterey and Big Sur that has those new web platform features right now [1]. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/ https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/
- alwillis 4y ago
  The latest STP that runs on Monterey has the features from Ventura [1]. [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/21/apple-releases-safari-technology-preview-147/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/21/apple-releases-safari-t...
GekkePrutser 4y ago
There was this guy called dosdude on macrumors that made these excellent patch sets to get them mostly working with unsupported versions. But it involved a lot more than just firmware. And there were lots of known issues with some configurations. I'll check that software out though, perhaps I can run Mojave on my 2010 mbp, I really miss the dark mode

Synaesthesia 4y ago

In pretty confident it will, the OCLP project has improved a lot and is now very capable and stable. My MacBook Pro 2012 runs Monterey, and it's really fast and stable. Better than any previous Mac OS in fact. You can look on the Macrumors forum and Reddit to see if they're already getting the betas to work. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-13-ventura-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-13-ventura-on-uns... https://www.reddit.com/r/venturapatcher/ https://www.reddit.com/r/venturapatcher/ Edit: the OCLP team released an official statement, looks like they're having quite a few challenges. https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/998 https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/9...

alexd111 4y ago
Interesting that you say that it's faster and more stable. My 2013 Air is on Monterey and it's "good enough" for my needs still, but slipping towards not quite good enough. Very tempted to give OCLP a try if it extends the life of the machine a bit more.

ksec 4y ago

May be off topic but this had me thinking. Will Safari 16 be available on older macOS? Assuming Apple doesn't break their tradition it should support two prior OS release, Monterey and Big Sur. While I could do without an OS update on my MacBook Pro 2015. ( I cant record a single useful feature from all the previous OS update other than Universal Clipboard ) That means for MacBook Pro 2015 Model users they will only have two more Safari Update.

alwillis 4y ago
Will Safari 16 be available on older macOS? Short answer: you'll get all of new web platform features (Container Queries, Subgrid, etc.); you may not get certain Safari-specific features that require a feature only present in macOS Ventura. You can get Safari Technology Preview for Monterey and Big Sur that has those new web platform features right now [1]. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/ https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/
alwillis 4y ago
The latest STP that runs on Monterey has the features from Ventura [1]. [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/21/apple-releases-safari-technology-preview-147/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/21/apple-releases-safari-t...

GekkePrutser 4y ago

There was this guy called dosdude on macrumors that made these excellent patch sets to get them mostly working with unsupported versions. But it involved a lot more than just firmware. And there were lots of known issues with some configurations. I'll check that software out though, perhaps I can run Mojave on my 2010 mbp, I really miss the dark mode