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How does ZipRecruiter get those numbers? By contrast, the BLS [1] says the median pay is $60k, and the bottom 10% earns at most $45k. This doesn't seem to squ

How does ZipRecruiter get those numbers? By contrast, the BLS [1] says the median pay is $60k, and the bottom 10% earns at most $45k. This doesn't seem to square with "most teachers make less than $37k". Perhaps the BLS data is skewed? I'm Canadian, so don't know how they collect it. But my intuition is that they are likely to have access to much better data than ZipRecruiter. The fact that ZipRecruiter thinks no teacher earns between $55k and $70k is also a little dubious. [1]: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/education-training-and-library/high-school-teachers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/education-training-and-library/high-...

fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
You’re right that the BLS is a stronger authority and a more reliable source, generally. I’d just note that the statistics you cite relate to high school teachers, who are compensated most highly among K-12 teachers, while the discussion in the thread and the ZipRecruiter data relates to teachers broadly, including K-8.
- cldellow 4y ago
  If you expand the Pay or Similar Occupations sections, you'll see data for elementary and middle school teachers. It's roughly the same.
  - fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
    This is a good call-out. Looking online, the BLS uses its Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics survey (https://www.bls.gov/oes/mb3-methods.pdf https://www.bls.gov/oes/mb3-methods.pdf) to gather their underlying data. I put my comment together based on a quick google search and an appreciation for graphics; BUT, I’d take the BLS survey’s response bias over ZipRecruiter’s sample bias any day (the data is derived from ZR’s own job listings). I’ll make edits to reflect your information. I think the underlying observation that teachers are compensated much less than tech workers is unchallenged (average salary of a teachers is approximately 40% less than the average salary of any STEM-related-field worker).[1] [1] https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ocwage.pdf https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ocwage.pdf

fleetwoodsnack 4y ago

You’re right that the BLS is a stronger authority and a more reliable source, generally. I’d just note that the statistics you cite relate to high school teachers, who are compensated most highly among K-12 teachers, while the discussion in the thread and the ZipRecruiter data relates to teachers broadly, including K-8.

cldellow 4y ago
If you expand the Pay or Similar Occupations sections, you'll see data for elementary and middle school teachers. It's roughly the same.
- fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
  This is a good call-out. Looking online, the BLS uses its Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics survey (https://www.bls.gov/oes/mb3-methods.pdf https://www.bls.gov/oes/mb3-methods.pdf) to gather their underlying data. I put my comment together based on a quick google search and an appreciation for graphics; BUT, I’d take the BLS survey’s response bias over ZipRecruiter’s sample bias any day (the data is derived from ZR’s own job listings). I’ll make edits to reflect your information. I think the underlying observation that teachers are compensated much less than tech workers is unchallenged (average salary of a teachers is approximately 40% less than the average salary of any STEM-related-field worker).[1] [1] https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ocwage.pdf https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ocwage.pdf