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Please help us beat the clock. http://rougefeta.com/view?id=GCZS2PXFur4uNApe4erotWY http://rougefeta.com/view?id=GCZS2PXFur4uNApe4erotWY

TruthElixirX 15y ago
What is this? Spam?
- amitz 15y ago
  It takes talent to write something this confusing. Don't want to see the code they write
  - rougefeta 15y ago
    Care to elaborate? We would welcome feedback.
    - ubi 15y ago
      your english is slightly off
    - andrewcooke 15y ago
      the english in the text displayed is not very clear. it might make logical sense, but it reads as confused english. i would guess that you are not native english speakers - you need to get someone who does speak english well to fix it for you.
    - rdl 15y ago
      Aside from the text at each step being badly written, users have no idea wtf is happening overall or where they are in the process. What you need to do is present up front the overall flow (ideally graphically; like 5 steps to completion at the bottom of the page and indicate which have been completed/what is being done now/what is in the future. Do this with graphics and very minimal (1-3 words) text. Writing 3 words to communicate something takes longer than writing 30. I got pissed when I filled in something, clicked submit, and then the next page was "why?" before it would accept; at that point I bounced. I'm not sure if arc makes this easier than something else.
jpulgarin 15y ago
This is THE most confusing thing I have come across.
- rougefeta 15y ago
  MVP, thrown together over a few hours on a deadline. Have you tried offering an incentive?
  - fate_carver 15y ago
    It is not an MVP...it is an invite. I am growing tired of these misinterpretations of what an MVP (formerly known as a prototype) should be. RTFM. rougefeta, you need a Tech Co-Founder, but do you really think you're going to get a quality TCF this way? If you need a translator to read your "offering" then you are doing it wrong. 1) What are you trying to accomplish? 2) How is this a product? 3) Wow. rougefeta, your intentions are not aligned with your output/implementation. I wish you the best and hope the comments on this thread have been helpful. You can do it, thank the stars you did not invest a ton of capital yet. Keep us informed of your intentions and progress!
    - veyron 15y ago
      You need to put two newlines to show items on separate lines for example: abc\ndef shows up as abc def and abc\n\ndef shows up as abc def
    - fate_carver 15y ago
      @veyron Um yeah, funny how it looks 'right' in the textbox...perhaps you can suggest a fix to HN dev? Too much stripping of the whitespace. Tellin' me!??! Sherlock!
      - veyron 15y ago
        If you want to reply to a post for which the "reply" link is missing, click on the "link" link and you will see a reply text box :)
apparatchik 15y ago
Interesting, this is apparently built off of news.arc ...what is it?
- rougefeta 15y ago
  We are trying to figure out a way to make people respond online. Say, through email. We are not spammers. This is in Arc, but written from scratch.
  - jpulgarin 15y ago
    The incentive to respond is the content of the email (or the identify of the sender). If I want to "offer" the receiver of the email an added incentive to respond I can say so in the email. "Respond to this email and I will give you $1000."
    - rougefeta 15y ago
      Sometimes, the incentive cannot be monetary, because the recipient is not interested in money. What the recipient may be interested in is an indication whether it is worth investing in a reply. We had changed "pays" to "helps" at an earlier stage.
  - apparatchik 15y ago
    Interesting idea, I think you need two things though: 1) Better copy. I (and others here I'd imagine) have no idea what exactly your site is. A short blurb that's a couple of sentences long that explains what is helps greatly. 2) Post this as its own post instead of a comment in another post. This way it looks a little spammy (which I understand is not your intention). Make sure you mention how it's built in Arc in your title, and post a story on http://arclanguage.org http://arclanguage.org as well (if you haven't already). Beware that new accounts posting links often get marked as spam, that's why pg recommends you have an account for a few weeks before doing a Show HN post, which would be the type of post you'd do in your case. Good luck!
vicar 15y ago
Reading that hurts my head lol
veyron 15y ago
I seem to be having issues accessing this page. Can you post a screenshot / explain what exactly you are doing?
alanh 15y ago
I cannot figure out why clicking “incentive” seems to be a circular link, and have no idea what you mean by incentive. Agreed: This is the most confusing thing I have seen in recent memory.

TruthElixirX 15y ago

What is this? Spam?

amitz 15y ago
It takes talent to write something this confusing. Don't want to see the code they write
- rougefeta 15y ago
  Care to elaborate? We would welcome feedback.
  - ubi 15y ago
    your english is slightly off
  - andrewcooke 15y ago
    the english in the text displayed is not very clear. it might make logical sense, but it reads as confused english. i would guess that you are not native english speakers - you need to get someone who does speak english well to fix it for you.
  - rdl 15y ago
    Aside from the text at each step being badly written, users have no idea wtf is happening overall or where they are in the process. What you need to do is present up front the overall flow (ideally graphically; like 5 steps to completion at the bottom of the page and indicate which have been completed/what is being done now/what is in the future. Do this with graphics and very minimal (1-3 words) text. Writing 3 words to communicate something takes longer than writing 30. I got pissed when I filled in something, clicked submit, and then the next page was "why?" before it would accept; at that point I bounced. I'm not sure if arc makes this easier than something else.

jpulgarin 15y ago

This is THE most confusing thing I have come across.

rougefeta 15y ago
MVP, thrown together over a few hours on a deadline. Have you tried offering an incentive?
- fate_carver 15y ago
  It is not an MVP...it is an invite. I am growing tired of these misinterpretations of what an MVP (formerly known as a prototype) should be. RTFM. rougefeta, you need a Tech Co-Founder, but do you really think you're going to get a quality TCF this way? If you need a translator to read your "offering" then you are doing it wrong. 1) What are you trying to accomplish? 2) How is this a product? 3) Wow. rougefeta, your intentions are not aligned with your output/implementation. I wish you the best and hope the comments on this thread have been helpful. You can do it, thank the stars you did not invest a ton of capital yet. Keep us informed of your intentions and progress!
  - veyron 15y ago
    You need to put two newlines to show items on separate lines for example: abc\ndef shows up as abc def and abc\n\ndef shows up as abc def
  - fate_carver 15y ago
    @veyron Um yeah, funny how it looks 'right' in the textbox...perhaps you can suggest a fix to HN dev? Too much stripping of the whitespace. Tellin' me!??! Sherlock!
    - veyron 15y ago
      If you want to reply to a post for which the "reply" link is missing, click on the "link" link and you will see a reply text box :)

apparatchik 15y ago

Interesting, this is apparently built off of news.arc ...what is it?

rougefeta 15y ago
We are trying to figure out a way to make people respond online. Say, through email. We are not spammers. This is in Arc, but written from scratch.
- jpulgarin 15y ago
  The incentive to respond is the content of the email (or the identify of the sender). If I want to "offer" the receiver of the email an added incentive to respond I can say so in the email. "Respond to this email and I will give you $1000."
  - rougefeta 15y ago
    Sometimes, the incentive cannot be monetary, because the recipient is not interested in money. What the recipient may be interested in is an indication whether it is worth investing in a reply. We had changed "pays" to "helps" at an earlier stage.
- apparatchik 15y ago
  Interesting idea, I think you need two things though: 1) Better copy. I (and others here I'd imagine) have no idea what exactly your site is. A short blurb that's a couple of sentences long that explains what is helps greatly. 2) Post this as its own post instead of a comment in another post. This way it looks a little spammy (which I understand is not your intention). Make sure you mention how it's built in Arc in your title, and post a story on http://arclanguage.org http://arclanguage.org as well (if you haven't already). Beware that new accounts posting links often get marked as spam, that's why pg recommends you have an account for a few weeks before doing a Show HN post, which would be the type of post you'd do in your case. Good luck!

vicar 15y ago

Reading that hurts my head lol

veyron 15y ago

I seem to be having issues accessing this page. Can you post a screenshot / explain what exactly you are doing?

alanh 15y ago

I cannot figure out why clicking “incentive” seems to be a circular link, and have no idea what you mean by incentive. Agreed: This is the most confusing thing I have seen in recent memory.