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Thank god we have normal cars as I have never understood the appeal of a smart car since everything a smart car can do can be done with a halfway decent smartph

Thank god we have normal cars as I have never understood the appeal of a smart car since everything a smart car can do can be done with a halfway decent smartphone. * by smart car, I am not talking about self driving cars, I am talking about the gimmick of running some Android and iOS apps on one's car

kyriakos 4y ago
I use Android auto all the time. Having Google maps on cars dashboard is very useful.
- GenerocUsername 4y ago
  Still requires manufacturers to implement correctly which I found my 2022 Subaru Android auto is locked in landscape so it's essentially half-screen... No way to fix
  - kyriakos 4y ago
    I think that's generally an issue with android auto corrected in the latest version. Essentially android auto has a fixed aspect ratio so only part of the screen real estate is used unless it fits exactly. Latest version is supposed to allow fluid layout.
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aaronbrethorst 4y ago
Built in navigation in cars is garbage. So is the built in music app. Letting me play what’s on my iPhone is leaps and bounds better than what a car manufacturer can give me.
mdp2021 4y ago
> Thank god we have normal cars A disconnected car is a requirement by any parameter of sanity given considerations of security including privacy, within a basic right of rejection of absurdity: but for how long will the "privilege" of avoiding lunacy will be granted? In Europe already one has to have law-mandated (in terms of shipment) hardware modules removed (the "e-call"). For how long non-connected cars will be available on the market? It is even possible that some rogue legislating body will decide that some connected feature should be mandated...
- fragmede 4y ago
  You're too late. You can't get a non-connected car since about 2016.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    Well, than having a post-2016 car is ruled out then (I am not completely sure about this piece of info though: I will check, there may be exceptions, e.g. vans). The issue will be about being able to use pre-2016 cars until civilization re-emerges.
    - rad_gruchalski 4y ago
      They will price those cars out by putting very high taxes on gasoline. If synthetics ever catch up, maybe that's the only way to go forward. Right now, synthetics are like €8/€9 per liter (*) to manufacture, not sure if it's possible to buy them. (*) According to overheard info from Toyota presenting the technology at the N24 race.
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    How do these cars handle network outages? It’s not too hard to cause a permanent network outage by removing/damaging the wireless interface.
  - the_biot 4y ago
    In every country the world over? Do you have a source for that?
    - fragmede 4y ago
      I don't follow the low end car market outside the US. It's entirely possible that developing countries still have "dumb" cars available, but due to their lack of adherence to US federal safety standards, importing one night as well be impossible for a normal consumer (aka anyone short of Jay Leno). As far as a cite, here an article that claims 2006 was the tipping point, so even earlier than I remember.

kyriakos 4y ago

I use Android auto all the time. Having Google maps on cars dashboard is very useful.

GenerocUsername 4y ago
Still requires manufacturers to implement correctly which I found my 2022 Subaru Android auto is locked in landscape so it's essentially half-screen... No way to fix
- kyriakos 4y ago
  I think that's generally an issue with android auto corrected in the latest version. Essentially android auto has a fixed aspect ratio so only part of the screen real estate is used unless it fits exactly. Latest version is supposed to allow fluid layout.

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aaronbrethorst 4y ago

Built in navigation in cars is garbage. So is the built in music app. Letting me play what’s on my iPhone is leaps and bounds better than what a car manufacturer can give me.

mdp2021 4y ago

> Thank god we have normal cars A disconnected car is a requirement by any parameter of sanity given considerations of security including privacy, within a basic right of rejection of absurdity: but for how long will the "privilege" of avoiding lunacy will be granted? In Europe already one has to have law-mandated (in terms of shipment) hardware modules removed (the "e-call"). For how long non-connected cars will be available on the market? It is even possible that some rogue legislating body will decide that some connected feature should be mandated...

fragmede 4y ago
You're too late. You can't get a non-connected car since about 2016.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Well, than having a post-2016 car is ruled out then (I am not completely sure about this piece of info though: I will check, there may be exceptions, e.g. vans). The issue will be about being able to use pre-2016 cars until civilization re-emerges.
  - rad_gruchalski 4y ago
    They will price those cars out by putting very high taxes on gasoline. If synthetics ever catch up, maybe that's the only way to go forward. Right now, synthetics are like €8/€9 per liter (*) to manufacture, not sure if it's possible to buy them. (*) According to overheard info from Toyota presenting the technology at the N24 race.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  How do these cars handle network outages? It’s not too hard to cause a permanent network outage by removing/damaging the wireless interface.
- the_biot 4y ago
  In every country the world over? Do you have a source for that?
  - fragmede 4y ago
    I don't follow the low end car market outside the US. It's entirely possible that developing countries still have "dumb" cars available, but due to their lack of adherence to US federal safety standards, importing one night as well be impossible for a normal consumer (aka anyone short of Jay Leno). As far as a cite, here an article that claims 2006 was the tipping point, so even earlier than I remember.