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yeah the acceptance of oss is cool but they still ship a lot of weird software and technology... which is fine assuming you can avoid it... but sometimes you c

by a-dub 4y ago

yeah the acceptance of oss is cool but they still ship a lot of weird software and technology... which is fine assuming you can avoid it... but sometimes you can't and then it becomes torturous.

labrador 4y ago
A big reason for that is their commitment to compatibility to past software. They kind of have to because they have people all over the world using old Microsoft software. They finally were just able to kill IE6 and Japan is screaming about it. So they ship a lot of ship a lot of weird software and technology in your words. Google just kills things when they get bored with it. Microsoft can't do that.
- a-dub 4y ago
  that's the classic excuse. but even azure, which was built from the ground up, is pretty weird compared to its major competitors. also, apple showed us how to do this. build the right thing for today and use virtualization to support yesterday until it can be updated. all software is living these days anyhow.
  - labrador 4y ago
    I currently own an iPad which is useless to me because a bunch of apps won't load on it because it's old, including GMail. I have better luck with my old hardware running Windows software.
behnamoh 4y ago
Apple is worse in that regard. Is XCode open-source? Other than Darwin Kernel, is any part of macOS open-source? Did Apple even try to make Swift cross-platform? Is iCloud really comparable to OneDrive? How about Apple's locked and closed-source bootloaders?
- 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
  Apple gets close to zero usage on desktops outside of the Silly Valley, has almost zero presence on servers, and it's trivial to avoid it (I haven't used their products for years (and very little before that), and personally know only a single macOS user). Windows — not so much. So when they put out yet another crappy technology, you may get tarnished one way or another.

4 ms·

yeah the acceptance of oss is cool but they still ship a lot of weird software and technology... which is fine assuming you can avoid it... but sometimes you c

by a-dub 4y ago

yeah the acceptance of oss is cool but they still ship a lot of weird software and technology... which is fine assuming you can avoid it... but sometimes you can't and then it becomes torturous.

labrador 4y ago
A big reason for that is their commitment to compatibility to past software. They kind of have to because they have people all over the world using old Microsoft software. They finally were just able to kill IE6 and Japan is screaming about it. So they ship a lot of ship a lot of weird software and technology in your words. Google just kills things when they get bored with it. Microsoft can't do that.
- a-dub 4y ago
  that's the classic excuse. but even azure, which was built from the ground up, is pretty weird compared to its major competitors. also, apple showed us how to do this. build the right thing for today and use virtualization to support yesterday until it can be updated. all software is living these days anyhow.
  - labrador 4y ago
    I currently own an iPad which is useless to me because a bunch of apps won't load on it because it's old, including GMail. I have better luck with my old hardware running Windows software.
behnamoh 4y ago
Apple is worse in that regard. Is XCode open-source? Other than Darwin Kernel, is any part of macOS open-source? Did Apple even try to make Swift cross-platform? Is iCloud really comparable to OneDrive? How about Apple's locked and closed-source bootloaders?
- 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
  Apple gets close to zero usage on desktops outside of the Silly Valley, has almost zero presence on servers, and it's trivial to avoid it (I haven't used their products for years (and very little before that), and personally know only a single macOS user). Windows — not so much. So when they put out yet another crappy technology, you may get tarnished one way or another.