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> If you were thought a name for some range of colors between red and orange, you would think of it as something clearly distinct than both red and orange, just

> If you were thought a name for some range of colors between red and orange, you would think of it as something clearly distinct than both red and orange, just as you are unlikely to accept that brown is just dark orange. What does this mean? People have come up with all sorts of wacky names for “hues between red and orange”, but since they are not in common currency they are generally ambiguous or incomprehensible. The clearest names for these hues are reddish orange, orange–red, orangish red. Brown is “just” dark orange (the range of hues considered “brown” for dark colors doesn’t precisely match with the range of hues called “orange” for lighter colors, but close enough). If you want a reasonably unambiguous English-speaker-comprehensible system of color names, you could try the ISCC–NBS system, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCC–NBS_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCC–NBS_system

comboy 4y ago
It means that if you have these names internalized (redorange for example, I'm sorry for not using the proper names), then if you see berries in that color then you recognize them easily - those are the only redorange berries I know. Otherwise these are just another red berries to me, I have to notice differences in shape for example. How you divide reality into patterns influences a lot what abstractions you can come up with on top of that. E.g. take evaporation. It's much easier to discover it if you divided things into solids, liquids and gases than if you divided things into fire, earth, water and air. It can get much more subtle like with intro/extroverts or asperger/autism in psychology. It's really hard to compare things and find new patterns between them once you put them into some buckets. You can much more easily find patterns within a bucket. But among different buckets, it's hardly possible, and it seems extremely hard to ignore some pattern once you've learned it.

comboy 4y ago

It means that if you have these names internalized (redorange for example, I'm sorry for not using the proper names), then if you see berries in that color then you recognize them easily - those are the only redorange berries I know. Otherwise these are just another red berries to me, I have to notice differences in shape for example. How you divide reality into patterns influences a lot what abstractions you can come up with on top of that. E.g. take evaporation. It's much easier to discover it if you divided things into solids, liquids and gases than if you divided things into fire, earth, water and air. It can get much more subtle like with intro/extroverts or asperger/autism in psychology. It's really hard to compare things and find new patterns between them once you put them into some buckets. You can much more easily find patterns within a bucket. But among different buckets, it's hardly possible, and it seems extremely hard to ignore some pattern once you've learned it.