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Nice to see a federated link aggregator that isn't plagued with the same political history as Lemmy [1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31713576 http

Nice to see a federated link aggregator that isn't plagued with the same political history as Lemmy [1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31713576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31713576

giancarlostoro 4y ago
I laughed when I saw "HOA board" in the filter list. I'm not sure what to make of that, are they genuinely anticipating that only right wingers will post about HOA boards? That is... something else. I thought everyone regardless of political ideology hated HOAs. I've seen insane threads on HN about hating HOAs I'm pretty sure, and europeans confused to no end about it.
- duxup 4y ago
  I find people down the rabbit hole can’t see out very far. Some folks are shocked to hear that anti-vax isn’t necessarily aligned with one political point of view.
  - giancarlostoro 4y ago
    > Some folks are shocked to hear that anti-vax isn’t necessarily aligned with one political point of view. I have seen this with my own eyes. People only see what mainstream media tells them to see. I rather see the receipts for myself.
    - duxup 4y ago
      I think if someone watched enough “mainstream media” they would be aware of the variety of anti vax views. I think more they don’t see much news at all.
      - giancarlostoro 4y ago
        If you only watch one source or “one side” of everything how informed are you really?
        duxup 4y ago
        I don’t think “mainstream media” is necessarily a “side”. Either way you would have heard about a variety anti vax folks if you watched it over the years.
- woojoo666 4y ago
  Which filter are you seeing HOA in? I can't seem to find it in the slur filter on their Github [1] [1]: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/0.16.5/config/config.hjson https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/0.16.5/config/config....
  - giancarlostoro 4y ago
    Its since been removed I believe but it was linked to in that reddit thread.
mariusor 4y ago
Lemmy is still a good project despite the fact that the developers used it as a platform for pushing their political cause. Dismissing them out of hand because their principles differ to yours is not great either in my opinion. Personally I disagree with this stance in open-source, and I do take "freedom 0" seriously for my projects. At the same time I will be quite sad if they will end up being used by communities trying to disseminate unpalatable ideas. That's why the mechanism for establishing federating links between littr.me instances will be specifically opt-in. An instance will "follow" another instance, and that other instance will have to "accept" the follow, for content from the second one to propagate to the first. At the same time a user will be free to follow an instance and receive its content at any time, but it will not seep into the "federated" timeline that the instance presents to the other users. This behaviour is not set in stone yet - it's the last major hurdle - that and the 502s everyone is complaining about :D - before I feel confident to launch the platform in a more public manner - and it's different from what the major players in the fediverse world do at the moment, which is accrete instances as their users follow other users on those instances. This, in my opinion is a little irresponsible and has everything to do with the chase for the "network effect" and users numbers, which I personally see as the main down-fall of every social network that has been launched in the past 20 years.

giancarlostoro 4y ago

I laughed when I saw "HOA board" in the filter list. I'm not sure what to make of that, are they genuinely anticipating that only right wingers will post about HOA boards? That is... something else. I thought everyone regardless of political ideology hated HOAs. I've seen insane threads on HN about hating HOAs I'm pretty sure, and europeans confused to no end about it.

duxup 4y ago
I find people down the rabbit hole can’t see out very far. Some folks are shocked to hear that anti-vax isn’t necessarily aligned with one political point of view.
- giancarlostoro 4y ago
  > Some folks are shocked to hear that anti-vax isn’t necessarily aligned with one political point of view. I have seen this with my own eyes. People only see what mainstream media tells them to see. I rather see the receipts for myself.
  - duxup 4y ago
    I think if someone watched enough “mainstream media” they would be aware of the variety of anti vax views. I think more they don’t see much news at all.
    - giancarlostoro 4y ago
      If you only watch one source or “one side” of everything how informed are you really?
      - duxup 4y ago
        I don’t think “mainstream media” is necessarily a “side”. Either way you would have heard about a variety anti vax folks if you watched it over the years.
woojoo666 4y ago
Which filter are you seeing HOA in? I can't seem to find it in the slur filter on their Github [1] [1]: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/0.16.5/config/config.hjson https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/0.16.5/config/config....
- giancarlostoro 4y ago
  Its since been removed I believe but it was linked to in that reddit thread.

mariusor 4y ago

Lemmy is still a good project despite the fact that the developers used it as a platform for pushing their political cause. Dismissing them out of hand because their principles differ to yours is not great either in my opinion. Personally I disagree with this stance in open-source, and I do take "freedom 0" seriously for my projects. At the same time I will be quite sad if they will end up being used by communities trying to disseminate unpalatable ideas. That's why the mechanism for establishing federating links between littr.me instances will be specifically opt-in. An instance will "follow" another instance, and that other instance will have to "accept" the follow, for content from the second one to propagate to the first. At the same time a user will be free to follow an instance and receive its content at any time, but it will not seep into the "federated" timeline that the instance presents to the other users. This behaviour is not set in stone yet - it's the last major hurdle - that and the 502s everyone is complaining about :D - before I feel confident to launch the platform in a more public manner - and it's different from what the major players in the fediverse world do at the moment, which is accrete instances as their users follow other users on those instances. This, in my opinion is a little irresponsible and has everything to do with the chase for the "network effect" and users numbers, which I personally see as the main down-fall of every social network that has been launched in the past 20 years.