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>Anyone can call anyone a criminal. The question is whether someone can make an individual determination that they think another person is a criminal, and wheth

by slg 4y ago

>Anyone can call anyone a criminal. The question is whether someone can make an individual determination that they think another person is a criminal, and whether this is a legitimate moral defense of extra judicial violence. Do individuals or groups have a moral right to judge others and carryout violence outside of the legal system That is basically all comic books. Why are you criticizing this one and not like Batman or something?

s1artibartfast 4y ago
Being a Nazi isn't criminal, and I don't have a dog in this fight. I was just pointing out why the comic was controversial. I don't think it should be illegal to print, but can see how Kickstarter employees could see it as advocating violence in the context of it's name and origin. I think employees would be similarly outraged if someone was crowd funding a comic called "how to mow down leftists" after the Charlottesville car attack. Again, not illegal, but you could see it as advocating vigilantism and not want it on their platform. In general, I oppose vigilantism and violence, and think both sentiments are detestable.
- joshuamorton 4y ago
  No see I really want to press you on this, because I want to hear how a theoretical stance in support of violence against unarmed, peaceful protestors (Charlottesville) is equivalent to support of violence against violent armed people who more often than not are the ones initiating the violence. One of those could maybe be called vigilantism. The other isn't, its terrorism.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    I won't be making that argument because I gave two examples of things that I disagree with, not one that I support. I don't think violence is ever warranted against another non-violent person whom you have ideological differences with. I don't think it is moral to act as an individual judge against any non-violent person and Carry Out violence. Punching someone because you think they are a Nazi or communist is not okay

by slg 4y ago

s1artibartfast 4y ago

Being a Nazi isn't criminal, and I don't have a dog in this fight. I was just pointing out why the comic was controversial. I don't think it should be illegal to print, but can see how Kickstarter employees could see it as advocating violence in the context of it's name and origin. I think employees would be similarly outraged if someone was crowd funding a comic called "how to mow down leftists" after the Charlottesville car attack. Again, not illegal, but you could see it as advocating vigilantism and not want it on their platform. In general, I oppose vigilantism and violence, and think both sentiments are detestable.

joshuamorton 4y ago
No see I really want to press you on this, because I want to hear how a theoretical stance in support of violence against unarmed, peaceful protestors (Charlottesville) is equivalent to support of violence against violent armed people who more often than not are the ones initiating the violence. One of those could maybe be called vigilantism. The other isn't, its terrorism.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  I won't be making that argument because I gave two examples of things that I disagree with, not one that I support. I don't think violence is ever warranted against another non-violent person whom you have ideological differences with. I don't think it is moral to act as an individual judge against any non-violent person and Carry Out violence. Punching someone because you think they are a Nazi or communist is not okay