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1930s consertatives in many places in the world were literally the original fascists. The ones in the US might not have been, but they were probably too busy fo

1930s consertatives in many places in the world were literally the original fascists. The ones in the US might not have been, but they were probably too busy forming the second Ku Klux Klan and trying to whitewash the Confederacy.

serf 4y ago
nit, the Italian Fasci movement started around 1915ish.
MandieD 4y ago
1930's German fascists took a lot of ideas from the US South's Jim Crow laws. I didn't realize this until I saw a display about it at the Dokumentationszentrum in Nuremberg. The Nuremberg racial laws were particularly influenced by the laws implementing American anti-Black racism once the descendants of Africans abducted into enslavement were nominally free. If you never want to sleep easy again, tour the section exploring how Germany went from fragile democracy into the state that was, within less than a decade, willing and able to systematically murder millions. Germans aren't special.
PathOfEclipse 4y ago
the KKK was entirely aligned with democrat party, by the way, as were Jim crow laws created entirely by democrat party politicians: https://www.socialjusticesurvivalguide.com/2018/01/08/the-democratic-partys-history-slavery-jim-crow-kkk/ https://www.socialjusticesurvivalguide.com/2018/01/08/the-de...
- andrekandre 4y ago
  right... in 1872...
- greiskul 4y ago
  I never mentioned any political parties, but ideology. The social order was slavery and racism, and people that wanted to conserve it were conservatives.
- cmurf 4y ago
  It's the Democratic party, there is no such thing as the democrat party. I take it you're not at all familiar with Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy, and it's embrace of the Dixiecrats, or actually quite a lot of relevant American political history https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/ https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
- trog 4y ago
  > the KKK was entirely aligned with democrat party You might be interested to look a bit more at the history of the parties and how their conservative/progressive tendencies wax and wane over time. Saying the KKK was aligned with Democrats as not helpful without context of time. Kevin Kruse (https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKruse https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKruse) writes a lot about this, which is how I learned that in days gone by, I would have despised the state of the Democrats and embraced the Republicans - their policies were almost the total opposite of what you'd expect.

serf 4y ago

nit, the Italian Fasci movement started around 1915ish.

MandieD 4y ago

1930's German fascists took a lot of ideas from the US South's Jim Crow laws. I didn't realize this until I saw a display about it at the Dokumentationszentrum in Nuremberg. The Nuremberg racial laws were particularly influenced by the laws implementing American anti-Black racism once the descendants of Africans abducted into enslavement were nominally free. If you never want to sleep easy again, tour the section exploring how Germany went from fragile democracy into the state that was, within less than a decade, willing and able to systematically murder millions. Germans aren't special.

PathOfEclipse 4y ago

the KKK was entirely aligned with democrat party, by the way, as were Jim crow laws created entirely by democrat party politicians: https://www.socialjusticesurvivalguide.com/2018/01/08/the-democratic-partys-history-slavery-jim-crow-kkk/ https://www.socialjusticesurvivalguide.com/2018/01/08/the-de...

andrekandre 4y ago
right... in 1872...
greiskul 4y ago
I never mentioned any political parties, but ideology. The social order was slavery and racism, and people that wanted to conserve it were conservatives.
cmurf 4y ago
It's the Democratic party, there is no such thing as the democrat party. I take it you're not at all familiar with Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy, and it's embrace of the Dixiecrats, or actually quite a lot of relevant American political history https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/ https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
trog 4y ago
> the KKK was entirely aligned with democrat party You might be interested to look a bit more at the history of the parties and how their conservative/progressive tendencies wax and wane over time. Saying the KKK was aligned with Democrats as not helpful without context of time. Kevin Kruse (https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKruse https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKruse) writes a lot about this, which is how I learned that in days gone by, I would have despised the state of the Democrats and embraced the Republicans - their policies were almost the total opposite of what you'd expect.