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Prison labor is slave labor.

blobbers 4y ago
The slaves freed through the civil war committed no crime. They were taken or born slaves. Criminals have shown their behavior to be counter productive to the laws of our society.
- archhn 4y ago
  Let me guess, middle class upbringing with little to no contact with the living conditions of the poors?
  - blobbers 4y ago
    My country doesn't have quite the level of wealth disparity as the united states.
  - therealdrag0 4y ago
    Let me guess, you think certain demographics are only entitled to certain viewpoints? /s
- conductr 4y ago
  Slavery is a broader term and concept than just referring the civil war era slaves in America
- Volundr 4y ago
  > Criminals have shown their behavior to be counter productive to the laws of our society. Or were wrongly convicted. Or were convicted of an unjust law. Or any number of other things. "Broke a law" doesn't justify making someone a slave. Even the "undesirables" are human.
- tacocataco 4y ago
  In the USA we have plenty of (IMO) unjust laws meant to put people into the system. If Democrats really supported bodily autonomy, they would push to make all drugs legal.
googlryas 4y ago
Locking people in a cage for years and controlling every detail of their life: okay telling them to dig a hole: slavery
- anonymoushn 4y ago
  Can you point out which poster said this?
  - googlryas 4y ago
    That's what I'm reading when I hear that forced labor by prisoners is slavery. If that is slavery, then what is locking them in a box and not letting them leave? Would that be kidnapping? Abduction? Why is locking someone in a box an acceptable punishment, but making them do work while locked in the box unacceptable?
    - anonymoushn 4y ago
      It does not seem fair, when someone tells you one thing, to imagine that they believe some other thing they have not mentioned and then ask them why they believe those two things together.
      - googlryas 4y ago
        I'm not telling someone they believe those things. I'm saying that I don't see how you can believe one without believing the other, since they both require the same leap of logic. And I don't think people believe that locking prisoners up is actually kidnapping and abduction - I am actually more of the mind that people don't really think it is slavery, but are just saying that as a rhetorical point. Just like many conservatives don't really think abortion is murder, which is why they don't want to punish aborters the same way they want murderers to be punished.
        anonymoushn 4y ago
        It seems much more likely that the people who insist on calling forced labor compelled using the threat of torture "slavery" (which, to be clear, is not really an opinion about whether or not we ought to do it) are opposed to the vast majority of the imprisonments in the USA than that they are fine with them.

The slaves freed through the civil war committed no crime. They were taken or born slaves. Criminals have shown their behavior to be counter productive to the laws of our society.

archhn 4y ago
Let me guess, middle class upbringing with little to no contact with the living conditions of the poors?
- blobbers 4y ago
  My country doesn't have quite the level of wealth disparity as the united states.
- therealdrag0 4y ago
  Let me guess, you think certain demographics are only entitled to certain viewpoints? /s
conductr 4y ago
Slavery is a broader term and concept than just referring the civil war era slaves in America
Volundr 4y ago
> Criminals have shown their behavior to be counter productive to the laws of our society. Or were wrongly convicted. Or were convicted of an unjust law. Or any number of other things. "Broke a law" doesn't justify making someone a slave. Even the "undesirables" are human.
tacocataco 4y ago
In the USA we have plenty of (IMO) unjust laws meant to put people into the system. If Democrats really supported bodily autonomy, they would push to make all drugs legal.

googlryas 4y ago

Locking people in a cage for years and controlling every detail of their life: okay telling them to dig a hole: slavery

anonymoushn 4y ago
Can you point out which poster said this?
- googlryas 4y ago
  That's what I'm reading when I hear that forced labor by prisoners is slavery. If that is slavery, then what is locking them in a box and not letting them leave? Would that be kidnapping? Abduction? Why is locking someone in a box an acceptable punishment, but making them do work while locked in the box unacceptable?
  - anonymoushn 4y ago
    It does not seem fair, when someone tells you one thing, to imagine that they believe some other thing they have not mentioned and then ask them why they believe those two things together.
    - googlryas 4y ago
      I'm not telling someone they believe those things. I'm saying that I don't see how you can believe one without believing the other, since they both require the same leap of logic. And I don't think people believe that locking prisoners up is actually kidnapping and abduction - I am actually more of the mind that people don't really think it is slavery, but are just saying that as a rhetorical point. Just like many conservatives don't really think abortion is murder, which is why they don't want to punish aborters the same way they want murderers to be punished.
      - anonymoushn 4y ago
        It seems much more likely that the people who insist on calling forced labor compelled using the threat of torture "slavery" (which, to be clear, is not really an opinion about whether or not we ought to do it) are opposed to the vast majority of the imprisonments in the USA than that they are fine with them.