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I mean, you started with "Boris Johnson is our only hope", so I assumed HN etiquette was out of the window at that point. > 2 years better options will be ava

by toyg 4y ago

I mean, you started with "Boris Johnson is our only hope", so I assumed HN etiquette was out of the window at that point. > 2 years better options will be available, but that's in 2 years time You assume the Tories can produce a majority after the current "Brexit coalition", held together by Johnson, collapses. That's not a given. It's also not a given that whichever cabinet a new PM could produce, will be strong enough to enact big policies. > but they don't seek to actively antagonise others. Policies like Rwanda deportations and the return of imperial measures are absolutely designed to produce outrage, and I challenge you to prove otherwise. The basic Johnson strategies are directly copied from the US playbook: they deliberately provoke the left in order to consolidate the right by defensive reaction, playing the victim and distracting from failures and scandals. And it works, for a while at least. Is the entire party like that? No, but the people who are, are currently running the show. > they're a centre-right party that seeks a wide base They were. They stopped being that when absolute power went to the likes of Reese-Mogg. They attracted radical Northern votes by acting extremist on issues where the Labour party refuses to do. This is not your dad's Tory party.

permo-w 4y ago
First point, as far as I'm aware that phrasing has no relation to HN etiquette, and even if it does and you chose to interpret it in that worst possible sense, that doesn't give you the right to do it too Second point, do I assume that? I cannot see how you've read that from what I've said. I'm a dyed in the wool labour voter, and last I checked the Tories were down by about 15% in the polls. The rest is opinion that I disagree with. I'm not here to change your mind. It's fine to be emotional and shouty and take the worst possible view of everything, but I'm completely unconvinced by it, especially when you challenge me to prove a negative

by toyg 4y ago

permo-w 4y ago

First point, as far as I'm aware that phrasing has no relation to HN etiquette, and even if it does and you chose to interpret it in that worst possible sense, that doesn't give you the right to do it too Second point, do I assume that? I cannot see how you've read that from what I've said. I'm a dyed in the wool labour voter, and last I checked the Tories were down by about 15% in the polls. The rest is opinion that I disagree with. I'm not here to change your mind. It's fine to be emotional and shouty and take the worst possible view of everything, but I'm completely unconvinced by it, especially when you challenge me to prove a negative