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>"Let's be clear; the title was "Always Punch Nazis", not "Always Punch Conservatives". If you're mixing the two up, that's more on you than the author." I've

>"Let's be clear; the title was "Always Punch Nazis", not "Always Punch Conservatives". If you're mixing the two up, that's more on you than the author." I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis" and the kinds of folks who go around accusing opponents of Nazism with little to no restraint. Edit: I'm struggling to articulate this, but I also sense a rhetorical sleight-of-hand along the lines of "By definition, we only go after Nazis. If you claim that Nazi we went after was actually a conservative, that says more about you than it does about us and it makes us question your sympathies."

zozbot234 4y ago
> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis" and the kinds of folks who go around accusing opponents of Nazism with little to no restraint. Indeed, there was a very high profile example of just that a few months ago. It even made headline news, you've probably heard about it.
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- kgermino 4y ago
  Can you elaborate instead of being coy? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
ceejayoz 4y ago
> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis"... C'mon. Beating up and killing Nazis has been a core part of American culture for 80 years or so. Comics, video games, movies. Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America?
- charcircuit 4y ago
  That's an appeal to tradition. If harassing gay people was a core part of American culture should we continue to do it? Beating up and killing people over one's political beliefs is wrong.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    "It was wrong to beat up gay people" and "it was wrong to beat up the Nazis" are... not quite comparable, I'd argue.
    - busterarm 4y ago
      Except that only depends on where your point of view lies. If you were a Nazi you would think it okay to beat up the pink triangle people. It's also a diversion from the actual argument about inciting violence against _anyone_ being both wrong AND illegal.
- BitwiseFool 4y ago
  I think you're dramatically overstating just how integral "beating up and killing Nazis" is to American culture. I'd go a step further and say that the principles of liberty and the First Amendment are more ingrained than the notion that it is permissible and encouraged to commit violence against Nazis. Especially if the alleged Nazis are fellow Americans. >"Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America? " Obviously not, and the fact that this is even being asked illustrates the concern because the association between Nazism and Conservatism has already taken root in some way. If you had just left those last two sentences out of your post, the first assertion would have stood on its own.
- usrn 4y ago
  More communists than Nazis although we've forgotten about that unfortunately.

zozbot234 4y ago

> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis" and the kinds of folks who go around accusing opponents of Nazism with little to no restraint. Indeed, there was a very high profile example of just that a few months ago. It even made headline news, you've probably heard about it.

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kgermino 4y ago
Can you elaborate instead of being coy? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

ceejayoz 4y ago

> I've definitely noticed an overlap between the kinds of folks who want society to embrace and normalize violence against "Nazis"... C'mon. Beating up and killing Nazis has been a core part of American culture for 80 years or so. Comics, video games, movies. Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America?

charcircuit 4y ago
That's an appeal to tradition. If harassing gay people was a core part of American culture should we continue to do it? Beating up and killing people over one's political beliefs is wrong.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  "It was wrong to beat up gay people" and "it was wrong to beat up the Nazis" are... not quite comparable, I'd argue.
  - busterarm 4y ago
    Except that only depends on where your point of view lies. If you were a Nazi you would think it okay to beat up the pink triangle people. It's also a diversion from the actual argument about inciting violence against _anyone_ being both wrong AND illegal.
BitwiseFool 4y ago
I think you're dramatically overstating just how integral "beating up and killing Nazis" is to American culture. I'd go a step further and say that the principles of liberty and the First Amendment are more ingrained than the notion that it is permissible and encouraged to commit violence against Nazis. Especially if the alleged Nazis are fellow Americans. >"Is Inglorious Basterds anti-conservative? Is Captain America? " Obviously not, and the fact that this is even being asked illustrates the concern because the association between Nazism and Conservatism has already taken root in some way. If you had just left those last two sentences out of your post, the first assertion would have stood on its own.
usrn 4y ago
More communists than Nazis although we've forgotten about that unfortunately.