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>figure out that they are getting a bad deal. That's not what it's "really saying". That's you adding analysis. I think hourly workers are perfectly capable o
by 99_00 4y ago
>figure out that they are getting a bad deal.
That's not what it's "really saying". That's you adding analysis.
I think hourly workers are perfectly capable of figuring out if a job is a good or bad deal for them.
They have bills and payments that must be made or they will suffer real consequences. They aren't making employment decisions based on free soda, foosball tables, and the political affiliation of the CEO.
- jokethrowaway 4y agoIf you can pass Amazon algorithms interview you can get hired in any other fang. Literally all the others are on average better options than Amazon for your mental health (even if not by as much as you think)
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y agoThe labor analysis in TFA did not appear to consider technical staff.
- rurp 4y agoI don't know, Amazon's absurdly high churn rate is pretty strong evidence that the jobs look a lot worse once you're in one of them. It's not about people being dumb and making bad decisions, it's just really hard to evaluate a work environment from the outside. Even for tech jobs, where it's common to interview with many future coworkers, assessing the work environment is tough. Warehouse type jobs are probably even harder to evaluate.
- 99_00 4y ago>pretty strong evidence that the jobs look a lot worse once you're in one of them Pretty strong evidence that the job is worse than people would expect would be an anonymous survey of workers by a third party. Churn can result from any number of factors. It simply isn't enough to support your conclusion, and a lack of imagination in seeing alternative explanations isn't proof. Warehouse jobs have high churn. Yes, Amazon's churn is higher. A pandemic is just ending. Amazon hired a lot of temporary staff. Temporary staff are temporary. As things open people have more employment options. People will always go to the best option available. That doesn't mean the job they left is inhumane. It means they found something better. Finally, Amazon has a signing bonus. Some workers may be there just for the bonus. Once they get it they may want something that pays less but is easier.
- jeromegv 4y agoThe fact that people are leaving with their foot is a strong evidence in itself that the job is not good. Does Ford lose all their workers right now? No. But they are unionized and make more money. Of course different industry but since Amazon chose to be in the industry of razor-thin margin, they have to find a solution to their own problem. If their business model relies on super cheap labor, then they must adapt.
- nomel 4y ago> The fact that people are leaving with their foot is a strong evidence in itself that the job is not good. Do we know which positions are leaving? Is it the back breaking jobs, or the higher level stuff? I don't imagine any the back breaking portion would ever be "good". It's seems like fast food, something that should be transitory, where you move on to better things (even if that's fast food management). Physical labor is a young persons job, because bodies break. It's not something you could stay with if you wanted to. If it's the skilled positions, like mechanics, engineers, forklift operators, operations, etc, that are leaving, then I think that would be better evidence. If it's the guys moving boxes, maybe not.
- 99_00 4y agoIt's a warehouse job. Warehouse jobs are "not good". Most people do it for a while and move on to better things.