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Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see th
by jjcon 4y ago
Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. It might be just me but my impression of kickstarter is that they are some of the worst offenders of 'maximum virtue signaling, minimum virtue'. That makes me inherently skeptical of a move like this.
- pgwhalen 4y agoCan you shed some light on why you think they have a toxic culture? Have you worked there?
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- anamexis 4y agoIsn't a very toxic corporate culture the perfect reason for them to be getting a union?
- duxup 4y agoPeople can be toxic regardless if there is a union or not. Humanity is endlessly capable of finding ways to do anything (good and bad). Unions and employers negotiate what kind of decisions are made and how, but they're hardly inclusive of every last thing. Some of the worst employer's I've had were union shops. It's entirely possible to have the opposite experience too, but there's nothing about a union that prevents toxicity. For the record I've zero experience with how Kickstarter is / this isn't a comment about how or if there are issues at Kickstarter with such things.
- anamexis 4y agoUnions might not prevent toxic personalities, but they certainly can protect against toxic managers.
- duxup 4y agoI’ve found that to be untrue. Often what people think of as “toxic” are informal actions and behaviors that unions don’t resolve. Maybe they can sit with you in a meeting but that doesn’t change how that manager can behave.
- tick_tock_tick 4y agoIf you take a group of toxic people, the current employee base, and institutionalize them as a Union well now you still have a toxic culture but no way to get ride of the problematic employees.
- lupire 4y ago"toxic culture" almost always means managers abusing staff.
- throw_m239339 4y ago> Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. I think they changed CEO recently, no? It seems like the ex-CEO, one of the founder, wasn't "a good cultural fit" after all. They had a round of layoffs a few years ago where some activist employees were weeded out, seems like it didn't work.
- busterarm 4y agoIt's actually sort of the opposite of that. They fired 2 activists who were poor performers but not even the people leading the activism. The press made an enormous, outsized fuss over it. A bunch of non-activists left the company half out of disgust and half out of strong encouragement from their peers. The company's culture is "very toxic" because 80% of the people there are moralizing to all of their peers instead of doing work.
- pessimizer 4y agoWeird context for moralizing to happen at a company whose model is encouraging people to make interest-free unsecured loans to people who aren't obligated to deliver a thing for them.
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